Tel tools Hello Alex, i remember there was few options to display our tel directory listing on a map and on the website (as a map or simply a directory). Could you please guide me in the right direction? Also, Is it very accurate? could we display it for a specific town with all the businesses listed? Last, is it possible to use telpages to search only our dottel domain network? like google search engine customization Many thanks, |
@tel4rent, I think Aled is on leave until early next week. "Last, is it possible to use telpages to search only our dottel domain network? like google search engine customization" Do you mean by this that you want to be able to pre-select a group of domains to be searched? I have requested group search in the past. It is the only reliable way to ensure your brand customers aren't subjected to thousands of pages of nonsense "keyword" auto-filled folders - designed soleley to generate ppc income, when they use the broader TelPages search through a directory or generic site. In turn, it effectively limits the use of such sites to 3000 folders and internal search, instead of unlocking the potential of the 300,000 record provision - possible if creating links to Telnames or individual .tel sites, with an uncorrupted TelPages search. Its a constant source of annoyance to me that pictures seem to attract greater attention than performance, potential and, credibility. |
Thanks Blunderer! Yes i mean to use Telpages to search a group of .tel domain and return only a result from those domains data. I think also that we have asked this question before...may be something is in progress. Any idea on the map? |
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Yes, it's possible, as an example just go to http://movie.tel and click on the search box: iron man, you will see some results, then again click iron man 3, not results will come up, but you will see the page of iron man 3, just try mate. Regards[/size] |
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It's such a shame for directories... The underlying basic system just needed tweaking. The promotion is easy (but only if it can be shown that it works) Regards the map, now that is an excellent tool that telnic implemented, and tweaked (by Henri) very very effectively. It's indeed accurate. Instructions and blog entry here... http://www.telnic.org/blog/2011/07/15/tel-mapping-tool/[/size] |
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That's not what we mean. You have limited the search to your movie.tel site only, and it is displaying hidden folders. However, you're still limited to 3,000 folders overall, and that search would not find Telnames results - you would have to set the search for ALL TelPage results. When you search for Iron Man on Telpages you get this: http://d1.telpages.com/result.action?search=iron+man . Now these results are actually good - in that even though most of them have nothing to do with the Iron Man movie, they do mainly relate to genuine services - scrap metal dealers, Ikea assembly instructions, etc. but, many search results just produce pages and pages which are only there because they have the keyword on them but no actual communication links, other than an Adword(s) for something loosely related. In these circumstances, who can have confidence in/patience with the value of the search box in a .tel? Why would a customer of your brand return if they searched for an Iron man movie and found Ikea assembly instructions? Now, selling more .tel/Telnames domains is the objective (to create the real-time - domain owner managed - global directory), and there is scope to drive this through geo and generic directories but, unless they can include a reliable, targetted keyword search of selected .tel/Telnames domains, any search will turn out just like the one for Iron Man (or worse). This does not go down well with the customers. For reliable search results which engender customer satisfaction, the only other current option is sub folder based small directories withinternal search only.[/size] |
@ blunderer that is what I want to search my site only, I want to build sites with hidden information. http://movie.tell is about top 10 box office. could you please click on the search box the word top 1, and you will see all information about top1 all of them from my movie.tel also try top 2 same thing. Regards |
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I understand that but, what if you wanted someone using your solarenergy site to be able to search and view results from both your solarenergy and greenenergy sites? You would have to set the search to use TelPages so, if they were looking for solar panels, and they entered that into the search box at the top of YOUR site - this is what they would get: http://d0.telpages.com/result.action...h=solar+panels[/size] |
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At the moment I am sure you know that its only the way to do so, or search your .tel site or search all .tel sites. Regards[/size] |
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Which is why Tel4Rent and I are asking for a group search facility as a third search option.[/size] |
Blunderer I agree that the average user who comes to Telpages (as it is now) will never return..... I have an idea, I am not sure whether this has been floated before or not, and I have not as yet given it any serious thought.... I think that any search on Telpages should return only the root domain(s) under which the search term is discovered. When the user hits that root TEL then he can drill down in that TEL to find more information. The search on a specific TEL should be limited to that TEL only. There should be no option to "search all Tels". I feel that users would be very comfortable with this way of searching "Teldirectory". What do you guys think? |
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That would certainly squash a bug! But what about the hard work the blunderers et all are putting into building out complex interlinked city teldirectories? Feature being/worth paying for *** add a third option. Via the CTH, just a textbox search filter "field" with domains entered, listed one after the other seperated by a comma? Mark eats this stuff for breakfast, ready by lunch[/size] |
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I think that returning only the Root TEL in TELPAGES would keep it clean. Maybe a secondary pop-up search box with additional filters could be deployed after the initial search putting more power in the hands of the searcher. After this when the searcher hits a specific TEL, the 'search this tel' feature would allow him to drill down further. Even with these three levels, I think it would be easier than searching with Google, which really returns dozens or even hundreds of pages without obvious structure. Google searches can be tedious. TELDIRECTORY will never be as cumbersome as Google.[/size] |
@Gibran/@Boracay I can see that for some users there may be merit in your suggestion but I'm not sure that it would solve my problem - how to avoid presenting thousands of keyword rich sub domains which are devoid of actual search related contact information. These frustrate the searcher by obscuring genuinely useful results, and they devalue the global contact directory concept which, I agree, should be a better contact search experience than Google. Only presenting root page results would not eliminate my problem. Having to open the root page and then search again would just mean that it took longer for the searcher to discover that most of the results were of no use to them - even more frustrating. |
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Do you think that the search facility in TELPAGES could be made intelligent enough to weed out those sub domains which are devoid of search related contact info?[/size] |
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I wouldn't have thought so. People can put what they like in their sites, and have a right to be found by a TelPages search. I'm only asking for the ability to target the search function on my sites - to better support the sale of individual ,tel and Telname sites, along with sub directories for those that require a managed listing. As things stand, having access to up to 300K records is of no consequence since they cannot be searched from within a .tel site (and not at all through a Telnames site). This means that a TelPages search is the only way to find the content of those records if they link to an individual .tel or Telname. I think that Telnic are missing an opportunity in ignoring local directories as a useful, possibly better, route to market for domain sales than current strategies. Total registrations don't seem to be growing.[/size] |
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Hi Blunderer I understand your need. In terms of domain sales - I am thinking that local directories do not sell a whole lot of domains - one domain and 30000 sub-domains for a city translates into one domain sale for Telnic. Maybe this is why they do do not see directories as being a solution to thier needs.[/size] |
@ Gibran and @ Blunderer Both are right, if we look it in different way, if I want to build my directory: solarenergy.tel with 299000 contacts information we need to sort out this: As things stand, having access to up to 300K records is of no consequence since they cannot be searched from within a .tel site @ Gibran not all .tel domains are susceptible for directories, in fact most of them are not, all generic are susceptible for directories. What I mean with this is that if you have a business with .tel domains, .co .com etc can be add in our .tel directory |
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Hi Gibran, Type Hotel into the search box here http://southmolton.tel You won't see the George Hotel in the results, but it is in the site. And you also won't be able to search and find results for folk, blues, or bluegrass music - all available at the George Hotel. That's why I'm not selling .tel/Telnames domains. We have taken 14 orders in the past 24Hrs - all will be sub-folders (3 up already - taxis on Ilfracombe and Axminster) - all will contain genuine, useable business info and links - all will be capable of being searched for and found - and no glossy pictures needed.[/size] |
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Nice job. Are you still doing direct calls to prospects to solicit their business? Mark[/size] |