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Would you invest in a joint venture? Assuming you had say $50,000 ready to invest in .tel... Would you consider pooling it Together to come up with the perfect registrar/template server to cater to most of the genuine, easily implemented extras, re what's being asked for time and time again on this forum? If yes, or even if maybe yes... Pm me to take discussions further. |
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If Only ! Any template produced by a joint venture - unless Telnic took it over - could only be viewed as http://mydomain.telxx.com(assumes telxx.com has been registered by the joint venture). The only way to get a template displayed as http://mydomain.tel - whilst Telnic continue to restrict the nameservers to just their own or to those of a registrar who offers their own TelHosting - is for forum members to set up their own registrar (with the huge investment in time and money involved) and then apply to Telnic to operate their own TelHosting system (as TelChina does). A better way IMO is for forum members to register their own .com domain (eg. telxx.com) and create their own proxy/template (which will work with any .tel) in the same way that Tel-4.com has done - for example http://Domains123.tel-4.com Whilst this does not generate me AdSense revenue, it provides me with Free Traffic and also Link Juice to all the .coms I have listed in the DNS of the source .tel http://Domains123.tel Link Juice to my .coms increases their rankings is the search engines - which gets me more targeted traffic - which generates me more revenue from my .coms. Additionally, the proxy/template provider could offer other monetisation options to the registrant of the source .tel (AdSense would be out due to their terms and conditions). Telnic make it easy for anyone to create their own proxy/template - the info is at http://telnic.org/tools-website-integration.html - you can then add all the bells and whistles you like to a display format that you have created. Mike Seaton[/size] |
Mike if you reread his post "Perfect Registrar/template server" I think this is what he is talking about and not a subdomain which reads a .tel on a different tld |
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Yes I appreciate that - but I really can't imagine anyone handing over thousands of dollars to create a piece of software they have to give to Telnic for it to work as a template displaying http://mydomain.tel The only alternatives to this are to create your own registrar (huge cost in both time and money) or to create your own proxy/template that displays as http://mydomain.telxx.com That's just the technical facts of life to the .tel setup - hence my post discussing a viable way of getting an alternative template display - which actually costs just $10 (for the .com reg) and some design/programming time. Mike Seaton[/size] |
Mike, I'm not interested in domain.copy.tel (it's been tried and is a dead-end) creating a niche .tel registrar is what it apparently takes to get this extension the few needed on/off options (as things stand) |
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I don't agree with your "dead-end" comment - software programs reading the DNS and displaying the .tel data in various formats is the core concept of the .tel project ! Quote: [/size]
Good luck with raising the funds - to create a registrar from scratch is likely to cost several hundred thousand dollars in initial setup and ongoing staff / office / server / marketing costs. It may be with the launch of the Telnic spin-off http://Telnames.tel there is the possibility of being a sub-registrar with them handling the CTH but the sub-registrar providing the templates(s) - this would of course be a much cheaper option - you would obviously need to speak to the founders of Telnames Limited (http://Kash.tel and http://Fiona.tel) about this. One thing is absolutely clear if you look at http://Telnames.tel - they will be selling .tels direct to end users, and with Telnames Limited being founded by the CEO and CFO of Telnic, will be calling the shots re .tel registrations for the future. Mike Seaton[/size] |
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I think your blowing cost things way out of proportion Mike. As a directory builder I need a few more options than the cth provides, and without dumping all over the idea, it now needs some constructive positive banding together discussion from other directory builders. A differing (to telnics standard template/proxy based) version of a .tel is obviously now possible to do Without the Icaan accreditation. Maybe it always was, so needs more discussion asap Is that correct?[/size] |
@boracay It was noticeable from the right beginning, according to WHOIS records of those tel domains (which are being tested with new template), that the new company was acting only as a reseller or a value added service provider for domains registered through that particular registrar. We will, however, come to know about it before 17th May. In the mean time I am also interested in finding out the possibilities of providing such services similar to the new company. I am not quite sure if such information is already available in the public domain. Will see how it goes, anyway. Good to know that I am not alone. Cheers! |
such info is readily available from telnic - they've stated this pretty much from day one. now all you directory owners imagine... being able to add ratings, reviews, coupons, news, weather etc directly on your own directory centric proxy. i think many who know me already know my intentions on this front, get in touch if you would like to talk more and see what else is possible here... |
I would like to be kept in the loop if such venture happens... Raising the funds should be possible if business plan, P&L and financial are presented. I like the idea very much specially if the good guys here are in it. |
I'm interested. Having our own proxy sure would allow more options in a democratic way. Mark |
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Speak to anyone who has created an ICANN-accredited registrar from scratch and you will find that it has ended up costing them several hundred thousand dollars in initial setup and ongoing staff / office / server / marketing costs. If you are not going to go down the registrar route, but just develop a proxy (and maybe modify the CTH) obviously the costs will be much less. One possible cheaper approach I suggested was: Quote: [/size]
But before you spend any further resources I would read the post below that Aled made on 18 March 2012: Quote: [/size]
It does seem a pretty clear statement from Aled re needing to be a registrar ! Mike Seaton[/size] |
Correct me if I'm wrong, as I have not got the time or inclination to read it again. This is telnics rules for potential telhosting providers rather than icanns or bound by an agreement with icann. Therefore they can amend rules as and when they see fit. Mike just because I think your over egging this whole argument, and straying of the intention of the OP please read http://www.dnjournal.com/articles/companies/myrebel.htm in particular Quote:
I imagine you will be aware that Ron Jackson will do his research. An Alternative would be to rent one. I have also heard of them being sold for less than the setup fee discussed in the previous quote, but I cant find the reference to it. Who says you need to have a lot staff to have a registrar a few of the big domainers have there own and service thereselfs only. Back on to topic. If there is a directory builders proxy getting set up, I would be interested, while I dont have funds to enter in at a founders level I would be interested in looking at it from a resellers angle. Quote: [/size]
This is what I am looking for.[/size] |
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Whether it costs $70,000 or "n" times that to create an ongoing ICANN-accredited registrar from scratch, and remember you would have the costs of CTH modification and proxy development on top of that, my view is that many forum members having already heavily invested in .tel are likely to respond in the same way as you have done in your post: Quote: [/size]
I would be delighted to be proved wrong and see forum members create the necessary ICANN-accredited registrar (Aled's post makes it clear you have to be a registrar to offer a new proxy), modify the CTH and then develop a new proxy. One thing .tel should have taught us all is be realistic and don't continuously throw money at the situation unless a return is likely to be made. Realism Rules OK - but I do think the new http://Telnames.tel template, if marketed properly (including the use of affiliates) could save .tel ! Mike Seaton[/size] |
The easiest way to do it is to create a company and take it public on a smaller exchange like CNSX in Canada or Bulletin Board in the US |
