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    Post by Telnic 2015-01-03, 8:20 am

    Aled09-03-2014 09:48 AM




    Background images
     
    We have this week launched background image functionality for .tel domains. Currently this is only available to be activated through the API, although it will also be added to the .tel control panel (CTH) at a later date. Full details of this new functionality can be found in this document - http://www.telnic.org/downloads/TelH...PI-BGImage.pdf.

    As mentioned in the document, some of the designs mean that not all templates are suitable for a background image (i.e. some don’t have a background). Unfortunately the API commands have different IDs to those used in the CTH, For clarity, therefore, the templates which can have a background image are the ones with the following IDs in the CTH:

    • Option 2
    • Option 3
    • Option 5
    • Option 6

    Also, as with all design aspects, background images are set for the .tel as a whole, rather than a folder by folder basis.

    Any questions, please let me know.

    ntervu09-03-2014 09:55 AM




    Aled..

    Thanks for the update. Would you happen to have the recommended image specifics for each option (size and extensions)

    Thanks

    Dan Prather
    www.danprather.tel

    Aled09-03-2014 10:03 AM




    Hi Dan,

    Good question. As mentioned in the document, there are three ways in which an image can be added. These are set by the "bip" value in the API:

    0 (default) - image is aligned top left and constrained (if applicable) to the width of the page

    1 – image is stretched to width and height of page

    2 – image is repeatedly tiled (works best with smaller images)

    For the default (0) as this will be displayed on a variety of different monitor and tablet screen sizes, it is impossible to create an ideal dimension for all. With the majority of screens having a 4:3 aspect ratio, however, this is the ratio we recommend (for example 1440 x 1080 pixels).

    For the other two as the image is either stretched or tiled, it's completely up to you. As mentioned above, the tiled setting is best with smaller images to get the full effect of the tiling.

    ntervu09-03-2014 10:14 AM




    Aled...

    Thanks for the prompt reply. I am going to assume that for good measure, users should try to use the same image guidelines that are outlined for TN backgrounds as you indicated:

    These images need to be in one of the following formats - JPG, GIF or PNG.
    Background Image – as this will be displayed on a variety of different monitor and tablet screen sizes, it is impossible to create an ideal dimension for all. With the majority of screens having a 4:3 aspect ratio, however, this is the ratio we recommend (for example 1440 x 1080 pixels).

    Thanks

    Dan Prather
    www.danprather.tel

    boracay.tel09-03-2014 10:38 AM




    telnames backgrounds work well, so that template is good for .tel

    thanks for including template 6

    Mark Kolb (Kprobe)09-03-2014 11:57 AM




    Telmasters tools were updated to support background image management:
    Quick Update
    Directory Populate new BG directive 
    Bulk Insert/Delete

    Telvision.co support is under the Template option.

    Examples of sites with backgrounds: 
    www.905.tel
    www.mark.tel
    www.617.tel
    www.lcbo.tel

    Have fun!

    Mark

    Mark Kolb (Kprobe)09-03-2014 12:02 PM




    Thank you to the Telnic team for providing this latest functionality. I look forward to seeing what owners add with their sites. 
    Mark

    boracay.tel09-03-2014 12:50 PM




    905.tel

    ah huh, now i try to remember what we were talking about Mark!
    finally, allowing visual branding throughout a directories full navigation.
    I'm particularly interested in the background image being updated in realtime, like you did on 905.tel

    to show a weather widget, to show a live webcam, to add visually dynamic components that stay on the page in view (all the time)

    Mark Kolb (Kprobe)09-03-2014 01:50 PM




    @Boracay, yes I am creating a new tool for dynamic/realtime images. Actually always had it, just never converted into a tool.
    Mark

    tony mayo09-03-2014 02:29 PM




    Appreciate Telnic's work providing this new functionality.

    Looks great.

    Just added image here.

    Financial.tel

    Seems to be slow to load with larger directories.

    Aled09-03-2014 02:40 PM




    Looks good Tony. You may want to experiment with image size vs quality to find the best possible compromise. One tool you might want to look at is http://smush.it, which tries to optimise without losing quality.

    tindaya09-03-2014 08:35 PM




    The Stretch work perfect:
    http://criptomonedas.tel/

    supercyberheroes09-03-2014 09:22 PM




    Guys I am getting confuse now. the best side should be 1440X1080 pixel for all: JPEG, PIN and GIF
    Am I right?

    Regards

    Mark Kolb (Kprobe)09-03-2014 11:49 PM




    @cyber, yes that is ideal size, i actually use a bit larger at 1600. if you use BIP option 1 (stretch) it fits the screen nicely.
    see www.Mark.tel 
    Mark

    supercyberheroes09-04-2014 12:36 AM




    @Mark Thanks for info.

    My background - my capital city: http://bogota.tel

    Regards

    Mark Kolb (Kprobe)09-15-2014 11:43 AM




    Please share on Twitter: http://www.telmasters.com/Blog
    @Telmasters
    Mark

    Blunderer09-15-2014 12:30 PM




    Good work Mark. Where are your images hosted?

    boracay.tel09-15-2014 12:51 PM




    Quote:



    Originally Posted by Blunderer (Post 28138)
    Good work Mark. Where are your images hosted?


    [size]
    currently, mine are hosted at telnames ;-) 
    ...while waiting on the revamped storage provided with IOS8 for free (the new iCloud service)
    won't be useable with the telnic CTH though, but I'm sure telvision will load those URL's just fine

    ps Mark, 
    I cannot get the backgrounds (1600x1000) to scale correctly with telvision. 
    the telvision defaults are not resulting in the same scaling 
    (graphic works perfectly as a telnames page background, that is it correctly scales)

    also, how soon before i can try the dynamic image tool?
    i would like to drop BOTH a weather-undergound banner, and a live webcam thumbnail in the top left corner of the background image[/size]

    Mark Kolb (Kprobe)09-16-2014 01:09 AM




    @boracay which site so I can see your options>
    Dynamic tool: off on vacation to Europe so perhaps end of October.
    Mark

    boracay.tel09-16-2014 03:01 AM




    I don't see the Pop-up menu in telvision (to select background format)
    can you fix that? (safari mac)

    i have got around the issue now, by using telmasters quick update tool instead.

    ps
    telnic? how long before the background function is added into the CTH please
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    Post by Telnic 2015-01-03, 8:21 am

    Aled09-16-2014 07:50 AM




    Boracay,

    I'll let you know on here once the background function is available in the CTH.

    Thanks,
    Aled

    Mark Kolb (Kprobe)09-16-2014 11:47 AM




    @boracay it is only when you are managing on first page of domain, will be [Template] link in menu at top.
    Mark

    boracay.tel09-16-2014 11:55 AM




    mark, I'm sorry, but there is no way to set the FORMATting (stretch, default, etc) in the dialog box of a background image.
    my computer is safari mac. I'm talking about telvision.co which i always prefer over the other tools.
    as i said, "quick update" is another way around the missing formatting option (i can't find it) in telvision
    cheers

    Mark Kolb (Kprobe)09-16-2014 07:55 PM




    http://telvisitors.com/images/tv1.jpg

    boracay.tel09-17-2014 04:31 AM




    I don't see the Pop-up menu in telvision (to select background format)
    can you fix that? (safari mac)

    perhaps can you put a bit of extra padding space near the popup 
    ( in html or try something)
    its not showing on safari

    Mark Kolb (Kprobe)09-17-2014 12:03 PM




    Can't now, off on vacation. Will try to view later and see.
    mark

    Mark Kolb (Kprobe)09-17-2014 07:49 PM




    Off to Europe on vacation. Telmasters support will be limited through Oct 4. Happy to connect in person with anyone in Barcelona or Amsterdam!
    Mark

    boracay.tel09-18-2014 03:09 PM




    Enjoy your trip Mark.
    ps thanks as always for supplying us the free tools, Im just letting you know about the mac issue.
    cheers mate

    dutchstreetdog09-21-2014 05:53 AM




    Come vissit me Mark

    Mark Kolb (Kprobe)09-30-2014 05:10 PM




    @dutch hopw to find you ?

    dutchstreetdog09-30-2014 06:25 PM




    Call me il find you, when you there ?

    aliencafe10-01-2014 05:15 AM




    hey Dutch/Mark once in a while I drop in and give a link to my video...now 5 years old!

    Peppy the porpoise goes mobile! Too bad not much else happened and it all died.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NOxExUYXa3Y

    David

    dutchstreetdog10-01-2014 08:39 AM




    Hahaha great movie, make me laugh
    I seen it before, your a pro men.
    Year its hard, the road to sucses 
    But i must say, i cant complain with my adult guide.
    I wish i had 20 of those, then i would make good money
    Thats also 1 of the reasons i have faight
    If its posseble with 1 its can bey done with more
    Now i am waiting for this to take of www.abs.filament.3d-printers.tel
    Dottel can rank high in Google, superhigh somtimes so bla bla bla i hope ��
    Look how high this excact search frais pops upp in Google, its even ranking higher then Amazon i believe ! (Almost ��)
    GP3D 1.75mm ABS Filament - Black, 1kg (2.2lbs)

    aliencafe10-02-2014 05:22 AM




    Cheers Dutch.. I too had high rankings with Taxi's, Hanoi, Waikiki etc.. all efforts are now gone.

    On to the next investment.

    dutchstreetdog10-02-2014 08:37 AM




    All efforts are gone ?!
    What do you mean ?
    I see my effort every end of the month, not much but anyway
    Am i missing somthing ?
    You dont have affiliate links ? That makes it fun!
    Also not brinnging almost nothing but the idear is good

    boracay.tel10-02-2014 05:35 PM




    Quote:



    Originally Posted by aliencafe (Post 28164)
    Cheers Dutch.. I too had high rankings with Taxi's, Hanoi, Waikiki etc.. all efforts are now gone.


    [size]
    on apple iOS8 (most people with iPhones have already upgraded) there is a button to DO AWAY WITH mobile optimised sites altogether. that is, simply show the desktop site.

    so the cth still lacks the ability to work with images and backgrounds
    i am really hoping that situation is resolved soon because being that its a massive Billion device audience that are being swayed back to ONLY desktop version websites.

    the apple watch?
    perhaps that is where mobile .tel can still work
    i.e. a mobile or stripped down website, contact data, YOUR efforts are ALREADY ready and optimised!!!
    keep the faith

    imagine your waikiki directory on a watch! (nokia 5602 ring a bell)[/size]

    Blunderer10-13-2014 11:32 AM




    Aled,

    Re. background images 

    "Currently this is only available to be activated through the API, although it will also be added to the .tel control panel (CTH) at a later date.".

    Is the later date likely to be this year or next?

    boracay.tel10-17-2014 01:29 AM




    Quote:



    Originally Posted by Blunderer (Post 28180)
    Aled,
    Is the later date likely to be this year or next?



    [size]
    apples iCloud free storage is perfect to use for storing background images, and ad images.
    http://www.macrumors.com/2014/10/17/...-yosemite-ios/

    please test and include support for this in the CTH.[/size]

    boracay.tel10-18-2014 02:57 AM




    again about iCloud drive...

    "APIs are available to allow third-party developers to offer iCloud Drive support for their apps. "

    telnic, surely you can offer this FREE apple service for image storage for ALL .tel customers
    its a FREE 5gigs of storage.

    please fix the CTH so we can work with our images!

    ntervu10-18-2014 06:18 AM




    Boracay and Team..

    The pro .Tel CTH platform already provides the freedom for us to "Independently Host" images via any hosting platform available. Apple's platform provides another option but I disagree that it should be considered as a permanent or default "built in" option. 

    Not everyone is an Apple user and Apple's platforms are not authorized, nor meet security requirements and artifact coordination specifications of many agencies.

    I would agree that having the same ability to "Independently Host" images on the TN platform would be nice as it would allow for quicker updates and administration of media management for coordinators of larger portfolios. 

    Respectfully,

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    boracay.tel10-19-2014 01:51 AM




    Quote:



    Originally Posted by ntervu (Post 28183)
    Boracay and Team..

    The pro .Tel CTH platform already provides the freedom for us to "Independently Host" images via any hosting platform available
    www.danprather.tel



    [size]
    we still can't even reference our images using the .tel control panel 
    ????[/size]

    ntervu10-19-2014 02:56 AM




    Boracay...

    You are correct in the fact that Image management from the CTH is not possible, but this is nothing new. Using 3rd party tools from Telmasters we can manage our Images for now with our own hosting. What we do NOT want to see happen is image hosting taken away and hosted by Telnic like image hosting is currently done on TN platform.

    I am confident that image management will be introduced soon, probably some testing going on. With the delivery of Background images via the API and Video management from within the CTH, we just have to remain patient. 

    Better to receive functionality that has been thoroughly tested that to deliver something that works for a few and broken for others.

    Respectfully,

    Dan Prather
    www.danprather.tel

    supercyberheroes10-19-2014 10:12 PM




    Quote:



    Originally Posted by ntervu (Post 28185)
    Boracay...

    What we do NOT want to see happen is image hosting taken away and hosted by Telnic like image hosting is currently done on TN platform.

    I am confident that image management will be introduced soon, probably some testing going on. With the delivery of Background images via the API and Video management from within the CTH, we just have to remain patient. 

    Better to receive functionality that has been thoroughly tested that to deliver something that works for a few and broken for others.

    Respectfully,

    Dan Prather
    www.danprather.tel



    [size]
    Could you please tell me how work images on TN platform? I host my images at imageshack.com I paid pro $20 per year unlimite upload images, which I do not mind still using it, if telnic introduce image managament on the CTH

    Regards[/size]

    boracay.tel10-20-2014 07:09 AM




    Quote:



    Originally Posted by ntervu (Post 28185)
    Boracay...
    ....I am confident that image management will be introduced soon
    www.danprather.tel



    [size]
    like blunderer asked, a fair question is this year or next[/size]

    ntervu10-20-2014 07:18 AM




    Boracay...

    Good question. I "assume" that delivery is close but can Not guess whether it will be this year or next. Not privy to what is on the Internal Roadmap and what other Priorities are being tackled. I am sure those things all factor into the equation.

    A delivery date is more an Internal target that public one anyway.

    Respectfully,

    Dan Prather
    www.danprather.tel

    boracay.tel10-21-2014 01:01 PM




    Quote:



    Originally Posted by ntervu (Post 28188)
    Boracay...

    Good question. I "assume" that delivery is close but can Not guess whether it will be this year or next. 
    www.danprather.tel



    [size]
    Apple sold over 270 million iDevices in 2014
    telnames template looks good and works well on those devices, backgrounds easily added, images scale and load nicely etc
    big audience or what, maybe 2015 will be 500million[/size]

    Aled10-28-2014 11:13 AM




    As I've announced on this new thread - http://telnic.org/forum/showthread.php?t=3313, it is now possible to set background images through the CTH.

    Mark Kolb (Kprobe)10-28-2014 01:26 PM




    Thanks. Nice to see, however it is not valid for templates 9+ for the time being through the CTH. You can still use Telmasters/TelVision for those. Note that it defaults to image stretch option which is the perfect option of the three available in the API. Just make sure your image is about 1600 width by 1000 high for best fit.
    Mark

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