Telnic's .TEL 10-year Registry Agreement with ICANN ends on 30 May 2016

See https://www.icann.org/resources/unthemed-pages/tel-2012-02-25-en

Does anyone know where on https://www.icann.org we can find out if Telnic have applied for and succeeded in getting a renewal after the 30 May 2016 expiry date ?

http://MikeSeaton.tel

Probably we will read it exactly through the link you posted above after the renewal has happened.

The only thing we know for sure is that the customers will be shafted again.

Telnic has only one thing in mind: how to squeeze the most money out of their customers.
This has worked pretty well so far!

That is economy!

Telnot wrote:This has worked pretty well so far!

Not long anymore!
More and more people are understanding now:
http://registrarstats.com/TLDHistoryChart.aspx?TLDName=TEL

Interesting proposal by ITAB (Internet Telephony Addressing Board) for a proposed commercial use for .TEL at http://archive.icann.org/en/tlds/report/tel1.html

Here's an extract:

The revenue model consists of a $6 annual registration fee. The target market is any current telephone number subscriber (individual, corporation, or service provider) who wants to register a telephone number and associated Internet addresses on the Internet.

I actually suggested this business model (in a TelTalk post) to Telnic a while back when they got ICANN to agree to the registration of all-numeric .tel domains.

Needless to say they ignored my suggestion - as they did with just about every other suggestion made by the vast array of knowledge and experience within this forum - many have now given up in sheer frustration with Telnic !

Only problem is this proposal by ITAB appears to be an old one - I wonder what will happen on 30 May 2016 when Telnic's 10-year .tel contract ends and ICANN considers whether Telnic deserves a renewal, assuming of course Telnic want one ?

http://MikeSeaton.tel

There is still revenue from the absorbers who still have registrations. That will probably mean Telnic want to renew.

TelBlogger wrote:There is still revenue from the absorbers who still have registrations. That will probably mean Telnic want to renew.

I really hope not !

See http://www.teltalk.org/t4381-not-long-to-go-now#15144

http://MikeSeaton.tel

Read this and weep for the .TEL Project - the original grandiose proposal by Telnic to ICANN is available at https://archive.icann.org/en/tlds/tel3/doc_01.htm

Here's an extract:

TOTAL YEAR END DOMAINS
YEAR 1 - 1,090,000
YEAR 2 - 2,715,000
YEAR 3 - 5,942,500
YEAR 4 - 11,451,875
YEAR 5 - 19,898,906

After 7+ years since first registrations on 23 March 2009 the TOTAL .TEL REGISTRATIONS today is just 104,834 - see http://registrarstats.com/TLDDomainCounts.aspx - that's just 0.53% of the projected total for the end of Year 5 !

Time for a changing of the guard I think !

http://MikeSeaton.tel

mikeseaton wrote:Read this and weep for the .TEL Project - the original grandiose proposal by Telnic to ICANN is available at https://archive.icann.org/en/tlds/tel3/doc_01.htm

Looks as if a lot of people believed Telnic back in the early years.

mikeseaton wrote:After 7+ years since first registrations on 23 March 2009 the TOTAL .TEL REGISTRATIONS today is just 104,834 - see http://registrarstats.com/TLDDomainCounts.aspx - that's just 0.53% of the projected total for the end of Year 5 !

Time for a changing of the guard I think !

I've just spoken to ICANN in LA (tel +1 310 301 5800 if you want to do the same) and it's not good news re the 30 May 2016 expiry of the Telnic .TEL contract.

It seems that although Telnic have achieved just 0.53% of their 5 year sales target after 7+ years, and all the other Telnic issues that forum members are aware of, negotiations are going through for Telnic to renew the .TEL licence when it expires on 30 May 2016.

They advised me that the new .TEL agreement with Telnic will be published on the ICANN site once negotiations are completed.

As usual there are far more .TEL drops than registrations showing today at http://registrarstats.com/TLDDomainCounts.aspx - a fall to 100K registrations is getting very close, most key Telnic staff have left, virtually all .TEL software developers have given up, the list of self-inflicted problems goes on and on !

Yet ICANN plans to renew the .TEL contract with Telnic (although not yet signed) - CRAZY OR WHAT !

http://MikeSeaton.tel

Thank you for the update, Mike!
This information is very appreciated.
I agree this isn't good news, since Telnic will continue guaranteeing that no actions will be taken during the second decade of .tel as well.

mikeseaton wrote:As usual there are far more .TEL drops than registrations showing today at http://registrarstats.com/TLDDomainCounts.aspx - a fall to 100K registrations is getting very close, most key Telnic staff have left, virtually all .TEL software developers have given up, the list of self-inflicted problems goes on and on !

No problem, a lot of more promising opportunities are waiting:

.xyz

.top

.club

.site

.online

Yes failed businessman Khashayar Maldavi wants to keep the revenue for the remaining and falling registrations and do nothing to improve the extension. This could mean 3-5 more years before it collapses if he reduces overheads to the lowest level possible - except for his salary of course. Same principle as bleeding out an oil well.

There comes a time when you have to wake up to the scam you have been caught in. 

If you see this d**che bag on the streets in London please spit in his face for me.

mikeseaton wrote:Yet ICANN plans to renew the .TEL contract with Telnic (although not yet signed) - CRAZY OR WHAT !

Who knows, may be "some little gifts" given in the right time to the right hand helped them to make the "right descision".

maxi wrote:Who knows, may be "some little gifts" given in the right time to the right hand helped them to make the "right descision".

ICANN will be happy to still have a registry for this failed domain extension.

And Telnic still can collect money from the last 100,000 registrants.

It's a win-win game for both of them.

icann. org/ news/announcement-2016-05-25-en

Perhaps this is someone who might look into what Telnic have done and have not done and relay it to ICANN.

Matt Larson, an expert in Domain Name System (DNS) infrastructure and security, has joined the Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN) as Vice President of Research.


Matt will lead a team of researchers to develop ICANN 's research strategy. Building a world-class research competency is part of the office of the CTO's larger efforts to constantly improve knowledge about the identifiers ICANN helps coordinate.


He has written three books on the DNS, including DNSon Windows Server 2003 and DNS on Windows, and is a co-host of the "Ask Mr. DNS Podcast". He currently resides in Bethesda, Maryland, with his wife and two children, and works out of ICANN 's Washington, D.C. Engagement Center.

Maybe someone can find him on LinkedIn or Twitter and get his attention in a legal and respectful way.

Do you have a question for Mr. DNS?

If you have a question about DNS for Mr. DNS, he’d love to hear it. Drop him a line at 

mrdns AT ask-mrdns  DOT com

What is the result?

mikeseaton wrote:

mikeseaton wrote:After 7+ years since first registrations on 23 March 2009 the TOTAL .TEL REGISTRATIONS today is just 104,834 - see http://registrarstats.com/TLDDomainCounts.aspx - that's just 0.53% of the projected total for the end of Year 5 !

Time for a changing of the guard I think !

I've just spoken to ICANN in LA (tel +1 310 301 5800 if you want to do the same) and it's not good news re the 30 May 2016 expiry of the Telnic .TEL contract.

It seems that although Telnic have achieved just 0.53% of their 5 year sales target after 7+ years, and all the other Telnic issues that forum members are aware of, negotiations are going through for Telnic to renew the .TEL licence when it expires on 30 May 2016.

They advised me that the new .TEL agreement with Telnic will be published on the ICANN site once negotiations are completed.

As usual there are far more .TEL drops than registrations showing today at http://registrarstats.com/TLDDomainCounts.aspx - a fall to 100K registrations is getting very close, most key Telnic staff have left, virtually all .TEL software developers have given up, the list of self-inflicted problems goes on and on !

Yet ICANN plans to renew the .TEL contract with Telnic (although not yet signed) - CRAZY OR WHAT !

I've spoken to ICANN again today and it seems Telnic's renewal of their 10-year .TEL Registry Agreement has still not been signed off - even though it expired yesterday 30 May 2016 - so maybe there is some hope for sanity to prevail ?

If you want to check the situation for yourself over the next few days, just phone ICANN Customer Support in LA on +1 310 301 5800 ("+" = 00 from UK) and ask them.

http://MikeSeaton.tel

mikeseaton wrote:Telnic's renewal of their 10-year .TEL Registry Agreement has still not been signed off - even though it expired yesterday 30 May 2016 - so maybe there is some hope for sanity to prevail ?

Very likely, this is only a delay caused by a slow proceeding.
I can't imagine that any other party would be interested in continuing the operation for this domain extension, because it's the only one you can't do anything with it (thanks to absolutely no development of it).

Just came across this ICANN page - https://www.icann.org/resources/pages/upcoming-2012-02-25-en - which has an entry (3rd from the end) under the ICANN56 | 27-30 June 2016 | Helsinki, Finland section which says Proceeding Title: Proposed Renewal of .TEL  Sponsored Registry Agreement.

The Estimated Timeframe given is October 2016 and the ICANN staff member to email with any comments you may have about this renewal is Krista Papac whose address is krista.papac@icann.org

So the .TEL Renewal situation re the 30 May 2016 expiry date is all crystal clear then ?

http://MikeSeaton.tel

Drops outnumbered Registrations by 20 to 1 yesterday - see http://registrarstats.com/TLDDomainCounts.aspx - which shows 721 Drops and 36 Registrations giving Total Registrations = 102,694

Such a far cry from the Year 5 = 19,898,906 Total Registrations - see http://www.teltalk.org/t4447-telnic-s-tel-10-year-registry-agreement-with-icann-ends-on-30-may-2016#15733 - predicted by Telnic when they applied to ICANN to operate the .Tel extension.

Message to Kash - IT'S OVER - GIVE SOMEONE ELSE A CHANCE TO RUN .TEL !

http://MikeSeaton.tel

mikeseaton wrote:Drops outnumbered Registrations by 20 to 1 yesterday - see http://registrarstats.com/TLDDomainCounts.aspx - which shows 721 Drops and 36 Registrations giving Total Registrations = 102,694

Such a far cry from the Year 5 = 19,898,906 Total Registrations - see http://www.teltalk.org/t4447-telnic-s-tel-10-year-registry-agreement-with-icann-ends-on-30-may-2016#15733 - predicted by Telnic when they applied to ICANN to operate the .Tel extension.

Message to Kash - IT'S OVER - GIVE SOMEONE ELSE A CHANCE TO RUN .TEL !

I've just checked http://registrarstats.com/TLDDomainCounts.aspx and Drops outnumber New Registrations by a factor of 120 to 1 !

The latest figures reported are:

New Regs: 3
Drops: 361
Total Regs: 100,964

Come on Kash - David Cameron did the honourable thing and resigned after his EU Referendum failure in order to give someone else the chance to lead - IT'S TIME FOR YOU TO DO THE SAME !

http://MikeSeaton.tel

if we know one thing it is that Maldavi is not honourable.

mikeseaton wrote:Drops outnumbered Registrations by 20 to 1 yesterday - see http://registrarstats.com/TLDDomainCounts.aspx - which shows 721 Drops and 36 Registrations giving Total Registrations = 102,694

Such a far cry from the Year 5 = 19,898,906 Total Registrations - see http://www.teltalk.org/t4447-telnic-s-tel-10-year-registry-agreement-with-icann-ends-on-30-may-2016#15733 - predicted by Telnic when they applied to ICANN to operate the .Tel extension.

Message to Kash - IT'S OVER - GIVE SOMEONE ELSE A CHANCE TO RUN .TEL !

I've just checked http://registrarstats.com/TLDDomainCounts.aspx and Drops outnumber New Registrations by a factor of 52 to 1 yesterday!

The latest figures reported are:

New Regs: 3
Drops: 158
Total Regs: 99,713

WHAT DOES IT TAKE FOR TELNIC & KASH TO FACE REALITY ?

http://MikeSeaton.tel