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    Post by Alex 2012-10-03, 11:29 am

    Published on 1st October 2012

    Plans to offer UK-based firms shorter internet domain names backed by added security features have been proposed.

    The scheme would give businesses the chance to register www.name.uk as their web address. It would run alongside the current www.name.co.uk service.

    Applicants would have to prove they had a UK presence and pay a higher fee.

    A three-month consultation is under way. Some companies may oppose the move on the grounds they already face having to buy other new net addresses.

    Icann (Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers) is creating hundreds of other top-level domains as part of a separate expansion set to create addresses ending in .home, .shop and .play.

    Businesses may feel compelled to register a variety of these new addresses in order to protect their brand, incurring additional costs.

    Security features

    The new UK service is being proposed by Nominet, the non-profit body responsible for overseeing all net addresses ending in .uk.

    "We have been asked over the many years we've been in operation as to whether or not we would allow these shorter domain names," Eleanor Bradley, Nominet's director of operations, told the BBC.

    She said the facility would be sold at a wholesale price of about £20 per .uk address a year, as opposed to the existing £5 fee to run a .co.uk domain for two years. Domain registration businesses would then add their own costs before selling on the products.

    Ms Bradley added that the service would also include security features designed to reduce the risk of cybercrime.

    "We would do daily malware scanning of these domain names and associated sites and they would be DNSSEC-signed [Domain Name System Security Extensions] - that's a security protocol that adds a digital signature to a domain to minimise the risk of domain-hijacking, and it also ensures that when you are going to go to a domain you reach the one you wanted to reach.

    "It would all be brought together with a Trust Mark so that consumers and people visiting these .uk domain names would get an immediate indication of the security and nature of the registration."

    She stressed that the idea was "not a money making exercise" and that any additional earnings derived would be passed onto an independent trust to invest in improving internet access and security.

    Nominet plans to run its consultation until 7 January, and has set up a site offering more information including where to email responses.

    It already offers registered companies the chance to use plc.uk and ltd.uk as alternatives to .co.uk.

    In addition .sch.uk can be used by schools; net.uk by ISPs (internet service providers); org.uk by non-commercial organisations and me.uk by individuals.

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    Post by Alex 2012-10-03, 11:33 am

    With the UK internet economy estimated to be worth £121 billion and growing, security, ease of use and choice are becoming ever more important.

    To further support the economic growth of the UK internet, we are holding a three month consultation about the potential introduction of a new service known as direct.uk, which would be specifically designed for businesses that are or want to get online, with a new shorter domain name of internet.uk rather than internet.co.uk.

    Nominet's Director of Operations Eleanor Bradley explains more about our proposals in the video above.

    Proposed key features include; verification to check a registrant has a UK address, daily monitoring for malicious software and viruses, and a digital signature which minimises the risks of a domain name being hijacked. These measures would be supported by a trustmark to give consumers a clear sign that it was a verified domain name.

    The potential additional features incorporated in this proposed new product could help to create an even more secure online home for British businesses. They would help to guard against cybercrime, which costs the UK approximately £27 billion per year, and play an important part in creating a trusted space for businesses and consumers.

    We are proposing that it would be a new and different service that would sit alongside the already known, respected and trusted options such as .co.uk, .org.uk and me.uk that will remain as an accessible, flexible and vibrant domain name spaces.

    This proposal is obviously significant for anyone involved in the .uk namespace, which is why we are consulting to ensure we take all views into account.

    You can respond to the consultation either by completing an online form, by downloading the consultation and emailing your comments to direct@nominet.org.uk or by requesting a hard copy of the consultation from direct@nominet.org.uk

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    Post by maxi 2015-04-13, 10:55 am

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.uk#Allocation_of_domain_names
    Allocation of domain names

    Allocations are on a strict first-come, first-served basis to qualified applicants. There are no territorial restrictions: applicants need not have any connection to the UK other than those outlined below for .ltd.uk and other restricted domains.
    Does this mean that now anyone could register any free UK domain? Or it is still restricted to UK residents?
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    Post by Expert 2015-04-13, 11:04 am

    maxi wrote:Does this mean that now anyone could register any free UK domain? Or it is still restricted to UK residents?
    Everyone can register them.
    But most domain names won't become available before 2019:
    For the majority of you the new .uk equivalent domain would have been automatically reserved for you (existing customers) from launch on 10 June 2014. So if you have a unique .co.uk, .org.uk, .me.uk, .net.uk, .plc.uk or .ltd.uk the shorter and sharper .uk has been reserved especially for you for free up until 10 June 2019 as long as your domain remains registered.
    http://www.dotuklaunch.uk/im-existing-customer
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    Post by Expert 2015-04-13, 11:13 am

    maxi wrote:There are no territorial restrictions ...
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.uk#Allocation_of_domain_names
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    Post by maxi 2015-04-13, 12:16 pm

    Expert, thank you!

    The domain .CO.UK, in which equivalent in .UK I am interested now, was registered at 04-Jul-2014.

    Dynadot.com that domain in .UK shows as a free one. I was in doubt because in another forum I was told that the article in Wikipedia could be old or not exact or etc.
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    Post by maxi 2015-04-13, 12:19 pm

    Expert, you are UK resident and you know all things from inside. So it is very interesting to know your opinion about that suffix .UK - has it chances to replace existing .CO.UK in future?
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    Post by Expert 2015-04-13, 2:44 pm

    Nominet is the registry for .uk (including .co.uk).
    Hence the information on their website http://www.dotuklaunch.uk should be the best source for this kind of information:
    For the majority of you (existing customers) the new .uk equivalent domain would have been automatically reserved for you from launch on 10 June 2014.
    If the .co.uk domain was registered after this date and the .uk domain is still available, you should be able to register the corresponding .uk domain without any restrictions.

    In my opinion .uk will grow strong in the future and will also overtake the meaning of .co.uk.
    But as usual in the domain world, this is a matter of many years, because usually end users adjust slowly to changes.
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    Post by maxi 2015-04-13, 3:26 pm

    Expert, many thanks!
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    Post by FrankW. 2015-04-13, 3:49 pm

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    Post by maxi 2015-04-13, 5:31 pm

    FrankW. wrote:.uk domain statistics
    O! Nice figures!

    FrankW., thanks!

    ***

    Just now I had found this rule for .UK. Does it means a restriction for non-UK residents?
    nominet.org.uk -- rules wrote:http://www.nominet.org.uk/uk-domain-names/registering-uk-domain/choosing-domain-name/rules

    7. SLD registrations (NOTE RESERVATION RIGHTS APPLY TO CERTAIN HOLDERS OF THIRD LEVEL REGISTRATIONS UNTIL 10 JUNE 2019)

    In order to register a new Domain Name as a SLD within .uk, the following requirements apply:

    Any person may register a SLD within .uk
    Where a registrant address is not within the United Kingdom,
    a UK address for service must also be supplied
    PO Box addresses (or equivalent services) are not permitted
    The sale of third level registrations to unrelated third parties is not permitted

    Also, does this means that you can own .UK domain but cannot sell it:
    nominet.org.uk -- rules wrote:7. SLD registrations (NOTE RESERVATION RIGHTS APPLY TO CERTAIN HOLDERS OF THIRD LEVEL REGISTRATIONS UNTIL 10 JUNE 2019)

    The sale of third level registrations to unrelated third parties is not permitted
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    Post by Expert 2015-04-14, 3:15 am

    @ maxi

    A foreign .uk domain registrant needs a trustee with an UK address if he doesn't have his own UK address.
    Most domain registrars offer this service (some for free, others for a small fee).

    You can sell your second level domain, e.g. yourdomainname.uk.
    But you aren't allowed to sell a third level domain, e.g. thirdleveldomain.yourdomainname.uk.
    (But you can sell third level domains of the second level domains owned by Nominet, e.g. yourdomainname.co.uk.)
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    Post by maxi 2015-04-14, 3:40 am

    Expert, thank you for the kind explanation!
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    Post by maxi 2015-04-15, 5:08 am

    I tried to find registrar who offer UK address, but failed - Dynadot, name_com and GodAddy do not offer it.

    May be you could advice such registrar?
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    Post by TelDE 2015-04-15, 5:20 am

    All providers I know offer an address for a local presence:
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    Post by FrankW. 2015-04-15, 9:24 am

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    Post by maxi 2015-04-15, 11:30 am

    TelDE , FrankW., many thanks!
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    Post by mikeseaton 2015-04-15, 2:12 pm

    Before registering a .UK domain bear in mind that the equivalent .CO.UK domain has prior rights to the .UK domain for another 4 years until 10 June 2019 !

    So although you may be tempted by some very good single keyword .UK domain names available, if you register one (assuming the .CO.UK is already registered by someone else) you could spend 4 years building up a web site and then have the .UK domain taken away from you at the request of the .CO.UK owner !

    Further details at http://www.dotuklaunch.uk/im-existing-customer and http://www.dotuklaunch.uk/rights-lookup-tool

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    Post by di7 2015-04-15, 4:17 pm

    mikeseaton wrote:... and then have the .UK domain taken away from you at the request of the .CO.UK owner !

    That danger doesn't exist, because all reserved domains aren't available for registration before 2019.
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    Post by mikeseaton 2015-04-15, 6:56 pm

    di7 wrote:
    mikeseaton wrote:... and then have the .UK domain taken away from you at the request of the .CO.UK owner !

    That danger doesn't exist, because all reserved domains aren't available for registration before 2019.

    NOT TRUE !

    As the owner of several .CO.UK domains, I am PROTECTED until 10 June 2019 - so if someone else registers a .UK that matches one of my .CO.UK domains I can ask Nominet to remove that domain from the buyer and hand it over to me.

    But there is nothing to stop me from registering the .UKs that match my .CO.UKs today and using the .UK NOW - that is what Nominet would ideally like to happen !

    Also, there is virtually no foolproof means of preventing someone else registering a .UK domain today when you already have the .CO.UK registered - but as I mentioned it won't do them a lot of good as you can simply get Nominet to take it away from them before the free-for-all starts on 10 June 2019.

    Many well-known registrars offer .UK registration today - the pricing for one I use a lot can be found at https://www.name.com/pricing

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    Post by di7 2015-04-16, 2:21 am

    mikeseaton wrote:Also, there is virtually no foolproof means of preventing someone else registering a .UK domain today when you already have the .CO.UK registered - but as I mentioned it won't do them a lot of good as you can simply get Nominet to take it away from them before the free-for-all starts on 10 June 2019.

    Sorry, Mike! But Nominet has reserved all .uk equivalent domains for the .co.uk owner (or .org.uk etc.). Nobody else than existing owners can register those .uk domains before 2019. There can be no conflict!
    If you decide not to register the new .uk equivalent domain before 10 June 2019, it will then become available for someone else to register, but your existing domain will of course still be yours as long as it remains registered to you.
    http://www.dotuklaunch.uk/im-existing-customer

    Nominet has blocked all .uk equivalent domains. They appear as unavailable for the public.
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    Post by FrankW. 2015-04-25, 6:58 am

    di7 wrote:Nominet has blocked all .uk equivalent domains. They appear as unavailable for the public.

    Example:

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    Post by maxi 2015-04-25, 7:26 am

    What will happen with .UK domains if one nice day Scotland will leave UK?

    One example of domains without country are .SU domains - they belong to now nonexistent USSR.
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    Post by x1y2 2015-04-25, 8:10 am

    It isn't uncommon that domain extensions disappear.


    Country code top-level domains are often replaced by new ones:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Internet_top-level_domains#Country_code_top-level_domains
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    Post by di7 2015-04-25, 9:46 am

    maxi wrote:What will happen with .UK domains if one nice day Scotland will leave UK?

    In that case, this ccTLD could be reactivated: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.gb

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