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supercyberheroes- Senior Member
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Tel Forum- Admin
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Thank you! Telarea.com, Teltalk.org and Dottel.biz are part of one project.
We've just started our work, but we hope .Tel will turn into the biggest directory for all businesses worldwide.
We've just started our work, but we hope .Tel will turn into the biggest directory for all businesses worldwide.
supercyberheroes- Senior Member
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Yes, I am working hard for that too, this week I will put live 2 more, I am dinging with my nails due the lack of tools. I have millions of ideas but no plenty of time to do soTel Forum wrote:Thank you! Telarea.com, Teltalk.org and Dottel.biz are part of one project.
We've just started our work, but we hope .Tel will turn into the biggest directory for all businesses worldwide.
Regards
http://movie.tel/
http://4g.tel/
GoTel- Senior Member
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GoTel wrote:
"I think that the public understood very well the essence of .tels and not like them."
Because Telnic has never seriously followed through on what they promised:
1. Single point of contact
2. Global directory
"Question: how much useful can be a local .tel directory, only UK addresses, of only 10-20,000 contacts."
Yellow Pages and Facebook started out with directories that were not categorized and only had hundreds of listings, not even thousands, and now millions of listings for each of them.
How useful ? Can you easily find the .tel of the forum members ?
Of course not, and a Telnames directory would be much more useful than a Google search for other Telnames, that's the point of a directory before anything else, just to find the Telnames of a few of your family, friends, or businesses to start.
You couldn't do it with Google or Telpages today, so why would anyone care if they can't find something or someone as easy as Facebook or Yellow Pages regardless of how many are in it ?
Great to see that a Global Directory is a goal in the Tel Area especially since Telnic and Telnames hasn't done it.
Best wishes, I hope it is a great one!
Boracay- Senior Member
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Admin, could you clarify what you have coming re telnames/telnic combined product?
Tel Forum- Admin
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To keep the competitive advantage, please be patient until the completion of the product.Boracay wrote:Admin, could you clarify what you have coming re telnames/telnic combined product?
We have a particular idea and want to create an offer no one can compete with. To achieve this, I would give no further details beforehand.
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Is it a product you work with Telnames with or is it a competitor to Telnames?Tel Forum wrote:We have a particular idea and want to create an offer no one can compete with.
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I will not disclose details at this early stage, but the product will take more market needs into account.
Boracay- Senior Member
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Interesting.
Will you have a new control panel?
and will you have you the all important "app" to access all features/functionality?
What about referencing a simple background image on pro.tel?
Will you have a new control panel?
and will you have you the all important "app" to access all features/functionality?
What about referencing a simple background image on pro.tel?
Tel Forum- Admin
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We want to concentrate on the two most important advantages for .Tel which are needed urgently (Telnames design for .Tel sub-domains and a .Tel directory).
An independent control panel with the administration of background pictures will be part of it. Apps are not in planning at the moment, but can be delivered later in case we succeed with our plan.
An independent control panel with the administration of background pictures will be part of it. Apps are not in planning at the moment, but can be delivered later in case we succeed with our plan.
mikeseaton- High-Flyer
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Here's the beginning of a requirements spec for a Tel Global Directory !Tel Forum wrote:We want to concentrate on the two most important advantages for .Tel which are needed urgently (Telnames design for .Tel sub-domains and a .Tel directory).
http://MikeSeaton.tel
Boracay- Senior Member
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So, you a registrar?
(access to the .tel "kit" has supposedly only been available to registrars)
Please, so that interest can be kept alive for this tld at the forefront of a directory creatrors options/path forward
Q. What is the expected timeframe of delivery for the optimal combined telnames/telnic package?
(ie a subdomain based .tel using a user-submitted custom background image)
(access to the .tel "kit" has supposedly only been available to registrars)
Please, so that interest can be kept alive for this tld at the forefront of a directory creatrors options/path forward
Q. What is the expected timeframe of delivery for the optimal combined telnames/telnic package?
(ie a subdomain based .tel using a user-submitted custom background image)
mikeseaton- High-Flyer
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The registrar requirement to produce your own .tel proxy was relaxed some time ago, but you still need Telnic/Telnames permission and, assuming you get it, have to meet some pretty rigorous technical specifications - there was a document released describing these in detail some time ago.Boracay wrote:So, you a registrar?
(access to the .tel "kit" has supposedly only been available to registrars)
I would be a bit surprised if Telnic/Telnames encourages a competitor to the Telnames format at this point in time, just as Telnames registrations are beginning to make some headway !
http://MikeSeaton.tel
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It's too early to tell, because it depends on contractual and technical requirements. I will give a statement as soon I have reliable information.Boracay wrote:Q. What is the expected timeframe of delivery for the optimal combined telnames/telnic package?
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During the last two weeks we have negotiated with different .Tel registrars to find a partnership for our project called TelArea.
As it turns out our project would involve the investment of approximately one million U.S. dollars.
Since we are not able to raise enough funds and can’t be convinced that we are able to create a profitable business based on these numbers, we are not able to proceed.
At this moment we aren’t able to deliver neither an improved .Tel control panel nor a .Tel directory.
Since our financial budget is just too small for such enterprise, we hope eventually a bigger cooperation will see the potential for this.
As it turns out our project would involve the investment of approximately one million U.S. dollars.
Since we are not able to raise enough funds and can’t be convinced that we are able to create a profitable business based on these numbers, we are not able to proceed.
At this moment we aren’t able to deliver neither an improved .Tel control panel nor a .Tel directory.
Since our financial budget is just too small for such enterprise, we hope eventually a bigger cooperation will see the potential for this.
supercyberheroes- Senior Member
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I do not know if you have done, but if you don't you can approach this 2 famous investors companies:Tel Forum wrote:During the last two weeks we have negotiated with different .Tel registrars to find a partnership for our project called TelArea.
As it turns out our project would involve the investment of approximately one million U.S. dollars.
Since we are not able to raise enough funds and can’t be convinced that we are able to create a profitable business based on these numbers, we are not able to proceed.
At this moment we aren’t able to deliver neither an improved .Tel control panel nor a .Tel directory.
Since our financial budget is just too small for such enterprise, we hope eventually a bigger cooperation will see the potential for this.
https://angel.co or this one: http://500.co
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I know of a company with a few million in the bank who have an interest in seeing .tel projects succeed !Tel Forum wrote:During the last two weeks we have negotiated with different .Tel registrars to find a partnership for our project called TelArea.
As it turns out our project would involve the investment of approximately one million U.S. dollars.
http://MikeSeaton.tel
Boracay- Senior Member
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It's disappointing news, but I thank you for getting back to us as you have written you would. Perhaps you might enlighten us further on the negotiations with those registrars?Tel Forum wrote:It's too early to tell, because it depends on contractual and technical requirements. I will give a statement as soon I have reliable information.Boracay wrote:Q. What is the expected timeframe of delivery for the optimal combined telnames/telnic package?
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@TelArea
I do not know what is the content of your project but I suspect there is no real fundamental reasons for you to go through registrar .
Although they look like to be at first sight, some obvious low hanging fruits when thinking of a package of services based on TELs, whatever nice such "new" services might be, the main drawback is that the TEL a-venue has been devastated business wise by results so far .
Just take a minute to put yourself in the Registrars ' shoes :
- TEL is only one gTL among other incumbant gTLDs , not a fat one, let 's say ok a specific one
- they hardly are making any more money out of TEL, although should still maintain trained staff on TELs process to sort out DNS issues and answer or educate Joe public when something goes wrong with his TEL and "data in the dns" concept.
- they have seen the arrival of a somehow silver spoon competitor, launched by the Registry Telenic, although not infringing the Registrar/Registry relations rules
- such Service Pack Editor , delivering TLNs, has not launched any real "revolution" again so far in the DN market as seen from Registrars' eyes, nor even in the TEL corridor although it is a walled garden tidied by Telnic, based on TLN registration known figures from Telnames, and although the insider support from TELnic
- dot mobi is a close easy challenger for Registrars to compare your project with, when talking about business , not about data in the DNS
- at the same time, these registrars are willing to earn ( and not loose ) money, with incumbant TLd or through the mexican armada of new Tlds already around the corner
- the new tlds will hit their Customer base by one way or another and will impact marketing/communication plans on which the registrars have already a decade of market experience, and want ot take advantage of it, whatever happens .
Crowd funding, on a low profile , could also be a solution in some extend, but your services need to show then to Joe public and convince him about the added value they bring to Joe public and the potential ROI , whather returns are in direct bucks or in services.
So to say, your project is possibly very interesting, but itis highly possible that you might have been talking so far to the wrong stake holders at this time in this ecosystem.
Keep going !
Drop me some private message if you feel so.
I do not know what is the content of your project but I suspect there is no real fundamental reasons for you to go through registrar .
Although they look like to be at first sight, some obvious low hanging fruits when thinking of a package of services based on TELs, whatever nice such "new" services might be, the main drawback is that the TEL a-venue has been devastated business wise by results so far .
Just take a minute to put yourself in the Registrars ' shoes :
- TEL is only one gTL among other incumbant gTLDs , not a fat one, let 's say ok a specific one
- they hardly are making any more money out of TEL, although should still maintain trained staff on TELs process to sort out DNS issues and answer or educate Joe public when something goes wrong with his TEL and "data in the dns" concept.
- they have seen the arrival of a somehow silver spoon competitor, launched by the Registry Telenic, although not infringing the Registrar/Registry relations rules
- such Service Pack Editor , delivering TLNs, has not launched any real "revolution" again so far in the DN market as seen from Registrars' eyes, nor even in the TEL corridor although it is a walled garden tidied by Telnic, based on TLN registration known figures from Telnames, and although the insider support from TELnic
- dot mobi is a close easy challenger for Registrars to compare your project with, when talking about business , not about data in the DNS
- at the same time, these registrars are willing to earn ( and not loose ) money, with incumbant TLd or through the mexican armada of new Tlds already around the corner
- the new tlds will hit their Customer base by one way or another and will impact marketing/communication plans on which the registrars have already a decade of market experience, and want ot take advantage of it, whatever happens .
Crowd funding, on a low profile , could also be a solution in some extend, but your services need to show then to Joe public and convince him about the added value they bring to Joe public and the potential ROI , whather returns are in direct bucks or in services.
So to say, your project is possibly very interesting, but itis highly possible that you might have been talking so far to the wrong stake holders at this time in this ecosystem.
Keep going !
Drop me some private message if you feel so.
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We tried to contact every registrar with a substantial number of registered .Tels.
It was not easy to get through and not all registrars were motivated to communicate with us.
The registrars who have been more accommodating had no interest in developing an advanced service for .Tel, although we offered to do the work for them.
It all comes down to the result that we have to register our own registrar in compliance with the ICANN regulations.
But we can’t afford the amount of money for it and we don’t see the possibility to collect enough funds.
In this difficult market environment with strong decrease of registered .Tels we don’t see the option to collect the money.
Our cost estimate for the project implementation amounts to $ 10,000, but instead we have to collect $ 1,000,000 to meet the legal conditions. This is out of proportion!
It would be easy to merge the Telnic and Telnames templates, but it is prevented. It is in the hands of Telnic.
It was not easy to get through and not all registrars were motivated to communicate with us.
The registrars who have been more accommodating had no interest in developing an advanced service for .Tel, although we offered to do the work for them.
It all comes down to the result that we have to register our own registrar in compliance with the ICANN regulations.
But we can’t afford the amount of money for it and we don’t see the possibility to collect enough funds.
In this difficult market environment with strong decrease of registered .Tels we don’t see the option to collect the money.
Our cost estimate for the project implementation amounts to $ 10,000, but instead we have to collect $ 1,000,000 to meet the legal conditions. This is out of proportion!
It would be easy to merge the Telnic and Telnames templates, but it is prevented. It is in the hands of Telnic.
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Of course, Telnic will know how to prevent their own competition for Telnames.Tel Forum wrote:It would be easy to merge the Telnic and Telnames templates, but it is prevented. It is in the hands of Telnic.
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@Tel Forum - Some months ago Telnic did remove the requirement to be a Registrar in order to develop your own Proxy and Control Panel - but you do have to meet fairly stringent technical requirements that they lay down.Tel Forum wrote:The registrars who have been more accommodating had no interest in developing an advanced service for .Tel, although we offered to do the work for them.
It all comes down to the result that we have to register our own registrar in compliance with the ICANN regulations.
This actually brings the situation more into line with Telnames, which is NOT an ICANN Registrar (although anyone could be forgiven for thinking it was) but a Reseller for the ICANN Registrar KEY-SYSTEMS GMBH.
I think your decision not to proceed with your project is very wise in the circumstances - what software developer is going to develop for an extension with constantly falling total registrations and where Telnic's 122 Registrars are NOT allowed to sell the ONLY version of .tel now being actively marketed i.e. Telnames.
It's a crazy situation which makes it appear Telnic is trying to rid itself of it's 122 retail outlets - with the result that all .tel registrations end up going via their direct-sell operation Telnames - anyone else got an alternative LOGICAL explanation ?
http://MikeSeaton.tel
PS. Why Registrars are not interested in developing for .tel !
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Where did you get this information from? And if you are not a registrar, on what engine can you install your individual control panel? Will it be available for all registrars?mikeseaton wrote:@Tel Forum - Some months ago Telnic did remove the requirement to be a Registrar in order to develop your own Proxy and Control Panel - but you do have to meet fairly stringent technical requirements that they lay down.
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Ixida wrote:And if you are not a registrar, on what engine can you install your individual control panel? Will it be available for all registrars?
TELnic has clearly documented the necessary API for a third party control panel of TELcontent data into the DNS.
It has been implemented by all initial TEL tools developpers.
For Reseller API, it is on behalf of the Registrars, also documented on their side.
Mikeseaton wrote:This actually brings the situation more into line with Telnames, which is NOT an ICANN Registrar (although anyone could be forgiven for thinking it was) but a Reseller for the ICANN Registrar KEY-SYSTEMS GMBH.
@TELforum / TELarea.com you may indeed remember that TELNIC has always been keen from a few years on :
--> pushing emergence of some specialised Registrars to support a TEL centric service or pack of services
( unlikely to really happen now as to TEL past track records in regard to still existing ICANN rules over initial money needed for a Registrar, which combined, makes it only affordable for large corporation , therefore with a sound TEL application/service into some vertical....)
--> encouraging project holders to become resellers of existing REGISTRARs although with a sole focus from this project holder , about TEL services edition and distribution.
And it may still make sense , outside UK presumably.
The latter , of course very welcomed by any Registrar, brings back to what could be the added value of the pack of services you would like to bring into the segment to recover any capital venture and operating costs .
Registrars have certainly asked you to become reseller first as step number one, and launch your services on step two, so easy low risk type of answer.
But Registrars which are indeed of agnostic type, as enablers among the potential stake holders as said before, are for these reasons, possibly not your best strategic investor or Partner to look after
>>> Did you try to fully identify who (what type) could be the other stakeholders within your-pack-of-service-market-segment once you exclude Registrars?
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I am afraid I did not do that.TELwax wrote:>>> Did you try to fully identify who (what type) could be the other stakeholders within your-pack-of-service-market-segment once you exclude Registrars?
I have a programmer at hand who could arrange the implementation fast and reliable.
But I do not understand the insurmountable obstacles to obtain a permit to do so.
I am afraid I have overestimated my options.
But I did understand it would be easy for Telnic to deliver what the community is expecting.
If Telnic does not want this, Telnic certainly has its reasons for it.
I will leave it to the professionals.
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