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What's the best .tel strategy?
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Sunrise- Insider
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What's the best .tel strategy?
It's hard to stay objective since Telnic customers have been kicked out.
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Re: What's the best .tel strategy?
I will explain it especially for you once. Telnic expected to sell millions of domains in 2009. After this didn’t happen, Telnic reacted and reduced the workforce to operate on low-level. This is the only and very obvious explanation for everything what has happened during the last three years. All complaining and sarcasm won’t bring any change, because nothing can bring in the missing millions of customers. If you want the situation to improve, the best option for you is to keep quiet.
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Re: What's the best .tel strategy?
May I ask, what benefits Telnic's men expect to win with this strategy for Telnic Ltd.?Natal wrote:Telnic expected to sell millions of domains in 2009. After this didn’t happen, Telnic reacted and reduced the workforce to operate on low-level.
Surely they should have some expectations. So, what exactly they expect will happen in the period of this "reduced workforce" and "operation on low-level", which should bring a success for the company?
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Re: What's the best .tel strategy?
Domain investors have more in common with Telnic than it appears at first sight. Seriously, domain business is tough. This forum is full with suggestions to adjust the business strategy and with complaints why Telnic doesn’t follow all these advices. But can the domain investors provide any proof that these suggestions lead to only one single new registered domain? The right advice is to observe the market and not to fire all powder at once. It’s very, very hard to convince phone companies to include a new invention into their services. The main task of Telnic is to assure a stable environment and check the market regularly for the moment when global acting companies start being interested in using the DNS. Like it or not, Telnic’s hands are tied until that time.
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Re: What's the best .tel strategy?
BS! Telnic only have to program an appropriate template; and people will start buying a .tel.Natal wrote:But can the domain investors provide any proof that these suggestions lead to only one single new registered domain?
Instead Telnic killed all SEO options with Telnames and tries to get rid of all other customers who see the deficits of the current offers.
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Re: What's the best .tel strategy?
I think we need to divide forumers' suggestions about Telnic's strategy and customers' suggestions about improving design and functionallyti of Telnic's product.Natal wrote: This forum is full with suggestions to adjust the business strategy and with complaints why Telnic doesn’t follow all these advices.
Company's strategy is its own business, and in fact is not very interesting for the customers - until they get what they need.
But what prevents Telnic's team from following customers' suggestion to create nice design for its multifoder-TELs and to make it possible to upload images and ads directly from the panel? I personally need only these two things and can wait long years for realization of Telnic's plans to reach its agreement with phone companies. I think that many other forum members and TEL-customers wait for the same two things only.
If a new template for multi-folder TELs, which will have possibility to insert images and ads directly from the panel will apear, then I will certainly register (and populate it with info) one domain at least. So, it could be a proof.Natal wrote: But can the domain investors provide any proof that these suggestions lead to only one single new registered domain?
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Re: What's the best .tel strategy?
Strategy and product design are connected closely to each other: Telnic decided to deliver a nice design only to Telnames without folders and cut the Telnic development for years. Because of this poor judgment nobody can be surprised about the stagnation of .tel!maxi wrote:I think we need to divide forumers' suggestions about Telnic's strategy and customers' suggestions about improving design and functionallyti of Telnic's product.
Company's strategy is its own business, and in fact is not very interesting for the customers - until they get what they need.
But what prevents Telnic's team from following customers' suggestion to create nice design for its multifoder-TELs and to make it possible to upload images and ads directly from the panel? I personally need only these two things and can wait long years for realization of Telnic's plans to reach its agreement with phone companies. I think that many other forum members and TEL-customers wait for the same two things only.
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Re: What's the best .tel strategy?
Check out the full article by a respected independent observer at http://domainnamewire.com/2013/05/02/a-look-at-tels-14-year-25-million-journey/It’s been a long and winding road for many new top level domain applicants. But most of the delays and challenges new TLD applicants have faced pale in comparison to the very long, very expensive road that .tel registry Telnic has traveled.
Don't forget to read the comments at the end of the article - here's one:
http://MikeSeaton.telIt was an interesting idea at the onset in 2009 when a lot of people still didn’t have smartphones and the directory listing format made sense on a small screen phone. I own several one word .tel domains and like many just wait for the day when the registry opens it up where the domains can be hosted anywhere and users can publish their own content etc. just like any normal domain extension. They would likely gain many fold new .tel registrations and it has the potential to be a more attractive extension than .mobi, and with so many products such as gift cards, coupons, games etc. all being formatted for phone use and scanning in stores by the checkout person it could really turn the corner for .tel.
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Re: What's the best .tel strategy?
@maxi From your post #6 :
If you do not want to wait you can go directly at www.telmasters.com , register FREE your dot TEL domain onto Telmasters.com ( add your domain) , do not forget to enable OAuth provided by TELnic so that you grant autorisation to Tools from TELmasters to access to your domain to input data as per your request, and just start using the Tools with several of them being FREE.
Typically by using >QuickUPdate> you will be able to input and manage images for desktop or mobile display, as well as Text ads.
Of course no way to implement large background image as in Telnames, but as you may know this background image from telnames is not rendered on most mobile, so ....
For templates :
Concerning templates, there are already a few of them although one can always want other design or fully customized templates, but then mobile rendering will be far from ...frequently rendered ...
For images :.../...following customers' suggestion to create nice design for its multifoder-TELs and to make it possible to upload images and ads directly from the panel ?
I personally need only these two things and can wait long years for realization of Telnic's plans to reach its agreement with phone companies. I think that many other forum members and TEL-customers wait for the same two things only.
If you do not want to wait you can go directly at www.telmasters.com , register FREE your dot TEL domain onto Telmasters.com ( add your domain) , do not forget to enable OAuth provided by TELnic so that you grant autorisation to Tools from TELmasters to access to your domain to input data as per your request, and just start using the Tools with several of them being FREE.
Typically by using >QuickUPdate> you will be able to input and manage images for desktop or mobile display, as well as Text ads.
Of course no way to implement large background image as in Telnames, but as you may know this background image from telnames is not rendered on most mobile, so ....
For templates :
Concerning templates, there are already a few of them although one can always want other design or fully customized templates, but then mobile rendering will be far from ...frequently rendered ...
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Re: What's the best .tel strategy?
Telwax, thanks!TELwax wrote:@maxi From your post #6 :
If you do not want to wait you can go directly at www.telmasters.com
So, I personally do not see any other logical explanation to this unwillingness to improve product, except of the variant that they purposely do not want to improve it.maxi wrote:I think we need to divide forumers' suggestions about Telnic's strategy and customers' suggestions about improving design and functionallyti of Telnic's product.Natal wrote: This forum is full with suggestions to adjust the business strategy and with complaints why Telnic doesn’t follow all these advices.
Company's strategy is its own business, and in fact is not very interesting for the customers - until they get what they need.
But what prevents Telnic's team from following customers' suggestion to create nice design for its multifoder-TELs and to make it possible to upload images and ads directly from the panel? I personally need only these two things and can wait long years for realization of Telnic's plans to reach its agreement with phone companies. I think that many other forum members and TEL-customers wait for the same two things only.
And in this way we again return to the previously discussed topic: http://www.teltalk.org/t1099-the-reason-why-telnic-does-nothing-against-falling-registration-numbers?highlight=registration
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Re: What's the best .tel strategy?
Your poll choices are very funny ... very funny indeed.
Telnic still promotes stories on its website:
http://telnic.org/community-stories.html
Half of them have dropped their .tel and the other half look like the most amateur, ridiculous webpages on the Internet today.
Get a Telname page and get a Telname Directory and then .tel has a reason to live ... still.
Telnic still promotes stories on its website:
http://telnic.org/community-stories.html
Half of them have dropped their .tel and the other half look like the most amateur, ridiculous webpages on the Internet today.
Get a Telname page and get a Telname Directory and then .tel has a reason to live ... still.
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Re: What's the best .tel strategy?
Shame this .tel has been dropped - .tel desperately needs to be seen as "cool" - so why have Telnic left this dead link on http://telnic.org/community-stories.html and http://telnic.org/community-story-olympians.html ?
amandabeard.tel Model and Olympic Gold medal winning swimmer Amanda Beard is also a photographer, sports presenter and spokeswoman for several animal rights groups. Beard made her first Olympic appearance at the 1996 Atlanta Olympic Games at the age of 14 and since then has captured a total of seven medals at four Olympic Games. Amanda says: "I always like to stay in touch and be accessible to my family and friends. Being on the road and splitting time between two homes, I need to be able to easily change my contact info and .tel makes it easy for me to point people in the right direction."
http://MikeSeaton.tel
amandabeard.tel Model and Olympic Gold medal winning swimmer Amanda Beard is also a photographer, sports presenter and spokeswoman for several animal rights groups. Beard made her first Olympic appearance at the 1996 Atlanta Olympic Games at the age of 14 and since then has captured a total of seven medals at four Olympic Games. Amanda says: "I always like to stay in touch and be accessible to my family and friends. Being on the road and splitting time between two homes, I need to be able to easily change my contact info and .tel makes it easy for me to point people in the right direction."
http://MikeSeaton.tel
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Re: What's the best .tel strategy?
THIS GETS WORSE !
Check out the page .tel Story of the Olympians
Here's are the links to the 4 Olympians on this page:
http://amandabeard.tel
http://cobijones.tel
http://allisonbaver.tel
http://summersanders.tel
ALL 4 OLMYPIAN LINKS ARE DEAD LINKS !
Is anyone awake at Telnic - how can you carry on saying these Olympians love .tel when by their action in not renewing them they obviously don't ?
http://MikeSeaton.tel
PS. I expect this Olympian page will be taken down tomorrow - Telnic do read this forum - but unfortunately refuse to join in and answer perfectly legitimate questions !
Talking and listening to customer concerns is usually considered good PR !
Check out the page .tel Story of the Olympians
Here's are the links to the 4 Olympians on this page:
http://amandabeard.tel
http://cobijones.tel
http://allisonbaver.tel
http://summersanders.tel
ALL 4 OLMYPIAN LINKS ARE DEAD LINKS !
Is anyone awake at Telnic - how can you carry on saying these Olympians love .tel when by their action in not renewing them they obviously don't ?
http://MikeSeaton.tel
PS. I expect this Olympian page will be taken down tomorrow - Telnic do read this forum - but unfortunately refuse to join in and answer perfectly legitimate questions !
Talking and listening to customer concerns is usually considered good PR !
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Re: What's the best .tel strategy?
The ultimate fate of all .tel links without a REAL directory.mikeseaton wrote:ALL 4 OLMYPIAN LINKS ARE DEAD LINKS !
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Re: What's the best .tel strategy?
I am not sure that it were they who had registered these TELs earlier. May be all these people even didn't knew that these TELs were theirs?mikeseaton wrote:...how can you carry on saying these Olympians love .tel when by their action in not renewing them they obviously don't ?
A lot of manipulation happen in this World.
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Re: What's the best .tel strategy?
Fadi Chehade and Dain Blanton don't know that they have a .tel domain either: http://www.teltalk.org/t962-president-and-ceo-of-icannmaxi wrote:I am not sure that it were they who had registered these TELs earlier. May be all these people even didn't knew that these TELs were theirs?mikeseaton wrote:...how can you carry on saying these Olympians love .tel when by their action in not renewing them they obviously don't ?
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Re: What's the best .tel strategy?
Cybersquatting in its purest way!Expert wrote:Fadi Chehade and Dain Blanton don't know that they have a .tel domain either: http://www.teltalk.org/t962-president-and-ceo-of-icann
That applies to this domain as well from which the White House has not the slightest knowledge: www.barack.tel
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Re: What's the best .tel strategy?
awareness for TEL might take various routes...
On one hand, there are millions of Barack who could try to claim ownership.
On the over hand, this is an obvious tribute to BO by some fan (as stated on the page) , never the White House will protest against this .
And if they do claim on behalf of President itself, it will be such a NICE recognition to TELs that the owner will certainly faciliate further Press Covers and will receive free coupons from TELnames for his entire life for such nice PR !
Do not mention therefore cybersquating when it is not really appropriate ?
BTW , TELs are said/ measured being the lowest cybersquatted DN in cyberspace (there might be some mathematical reason also, but this is interesting ... ) .Funny.
Read page 4 on http://news.dot-nxt.com/sites/news.dot-nxt.com/files/NameSentry-Report-2013.pdf
Surprising ?
On one hand, there are millions of Barack who could try to claim ownership.
On the over hand, this is an obvious tribute to BO by some fan (as stated on the page) , never the White House will protest against this .
And if they do claim on behalf of President itself, it will be such a NICE recognition to TELs that the owner will certainly faciliate further Press Covers and will receive free coupons from TELnames for his entire life for such nice PR !
Do not mention therefore cybersquating when it is not really appropriate ?
BTW , TELs are said/ measured being the lowest cybersquatted DN in cyberspace (there might be some mathematical reason also, but this is interesting ... ) .Funny.
Read page 4 on http://news.dot-nxt.com/sites/news.dot-nxt.com/files/NameSentry-Report-2013.pdf
Surprising ?
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Re: What's the best .tel strategy?
This report is about phishers, spammers, and malware-wielding criminals. Cybersquatting is not the subject of this analysis.TELwax wrote:BTW , TELs are said/ measured being the lowest cybersquatted DN in cyberspace (there might be some mathematical reason also, but this is interesting ... ) .Funny.
Read page 4 on http://news.dot-nxt.com/sites/news.dot-nxt.com/files/NameSentry-Report-2013.pdf
Only because www.barack.tel may be in the interest of the White House, it doesn't mean that the current use of the domain is legitimate.
If the White House claims this domain in court, the current owner will loss it without doubt.
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Re: What's the best .tel strategy?
Thanks for your interesting imput.
You are right, and also this is some reason why TEL tld stands at first rank in this survey, abuses listed here at second sight are indeed mainly about security issues, although spam is clearly mentionned as well as related subjects,.
However concerning your point about White House, I do not know what are the rules you are familiar with in your country, but this is very unlikely any legal action would be granted some legal foundations in the US, of course provided the content about "Barack" is not defamatory to BO, which is obvious here ...
You are right, and also this is some reason why TEL tld stands at first rank in this survey, abuses listed here at second sight are indeed mainly about security issues, although spam is clearly mentionned as well as related subjects,.
However concerning your point about White House, I do not know what are the rules you are familiar with in your country, but this is very unlikely any legal action would be granted some legal foundations in the US, of course provided the content about "Barack" is not defamatory to BO, which is obvious here ...
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Re: What's the best .tel strategy?
Afterthoughts : Hard times ahead for courts with the thousands of gTLD lining up ;+)
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ICANN is preparing for it:TELwax wrote:Afterthoughts : Hard times ahead for courts with the thousands of gTLD lining up ;+)
http://www.domainforum.online/t105-the-trademark-clearinghouse-protect-your-trademark-online
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Re: What's the best .tel strategy?
I can think of only one reason why Telnic doesn't give any signs: Telnic doesn't believe in its own success and doesn't want to scare the last customers away by saying anything wrong.maxi wrote:So, I personally do not see any other logical explanation to this unwillingness to improve product, except of the variant that they purposely do not want to improve it.
And in this way we again return to the previously discussed topic: http://www.teltalk.org/t1099-the-reason-why-telnic-does-nothing-against-falling-registration-numbers?highlight=registration
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Re: What's the best .tel strategy?
After checking the historical who-is entries for the domains I get the impression that none of these athletes have registered the domains themselves. It was just another marketing trick to pretend interest in this domain extension.mikeseaton wrote:THIS GETS WORSE !
Check out the page .tel Story of the Olympians
Here's are the links to the 4 Olympians on this page:
http://amandabeard.tel
http://cobijones.tel
http://allisonbaver.tel
http://summersanders.tel
ALL 4 OLMYPIAN LINKS ARE DEAD LINKS !
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