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Telcamp Videos Hello, just saw videos of tel camp and was devastated in a way how .tel is being advertised just with tools instead of the basic message behind it, .tel need audience not just developers showcasing their products or software sorry if anyone takes offense of it some of the developers are even my friends but i would like to be open here we all have spent money in .tel's future not just to see the tools about .tel but we need real media coverage. i have over 145 .tel my self and i do believe its going to go far but if its going to go in this manner trust me we are sailing no where, the video on the train was a big boost to .tel to be frank if i had seen this videos before the launch of .tel not even US$ 1 of mine was going in .tel i was still buying .tel from reseller recently grabbed nevadarealestate.tel floridahomes.tel but looking at how .tel is going none will buy .tel not even mr and looks like it might even take 2-5 years for it to reach to a sale of 1 million, true it did reach a record sale as everyone had huge expectation but telnic needs to promote .tel in a different manner if it needs sales and long lasting clients.i am not a naysayer but i want telnic to really look into the advertisement mode of this product, and we do not need to rely on 3rd part software we need something that is from .tel that is self build and simple to use, if one claims that .tel is trouble free and no programming needed then i guess one should stick to that and also try to help. Please guys work on some alternative modes also just besides tel camps as this is not the only solutions, been support and stuck by .tel since Oct 08 and we are approaching Oct 09 we need some change. Thanks Shahid |
Shahid, Thanks for your comments and support. We recognise your concern and rest assured, TelCamp is just one of the events and promotions that we are doing and planning to do. TelCamp is a specific developer-related event organised for & by developers or people who need developers for their .tel-related projects. Please don't mix the 'Ben.tel' promo video and footage from TelCamp, the purposes and audiences for those are quite different. Look at the timeline for more generic events, http://telnic.org/community-timeline.html - in the next few months there are several conferences upcoming, and more events to added as we move along. Do come join us! There are more targeted promotional campaigns planned, follow the news for our tweets and press releases - sorry cannot tell you more at this time. |
Thank you for replying back, as far as i know till now i and many of us thought that telcamp is about advertising .tel not just for developers but to get the word of .tel out, so it would have been nice to be more specific about promoting telcamp. more over Telcamp needs ( people from telnic , Guests who can come and take part in discussion or more or less give media coverage to it, i would refer it to ben.tel promo because telcamp is also mode of advertising .tel not its tools that can be used for it. i believe .name is the most disliked tld but still people know about it, where as about .tel no one even has a clue what .tel is, if advertisement are made to make it more obvious trust me not only will it boost .tel sales but also bring hopes to .tel itself and assure its investors. then even if telcamps are there to showcase ideas for .tel it will help but it just seems like the people who have bought .tel a very small number just go there to discuss its possibilities. we need more General Audience then Developers, so i would be happy if people can support the fact of advertisement of it rather then sit back and read tweets :) last but not the lease we need more media coverage because noting is happening and we are almost approaching renewal i am not worried about mine but many are going to drop and yes the number did hit 150k in less then 2 months but it might fall drastically if things are not arranged as the people want it to be. Thanks Shahid Khan Quote:
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It would have been more intersting if there was a presentation from telnic staff. a bit disappointment. |
TelCamps will continue happening, and they're by the community for the community. If you want something in a TelCamp, just ask for it and the organizers will most probably try to set it up. |
For your information. On May, 21 was announced 200.000 registrations, today, September, 4 is about 210 000 (according to www.telsites.info). 200 000 registrations of domains had been received within two months, and only 10 000 registrations of domains had been received within next 3,5 months.... You can see the trend. The most registers are domainers. Global marketing program is needed. |
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Thank for your input Henri, the main aspect is not that telcamp should take place or not but its .tel needs advertisement not just being a sponsor of some event but its needs more coverage in terms of tel explaining it to various people on how it can be used or how it can be adapted and on how it can benefit an investor in the near future. the point telnic is not getting right now is that 95% of registrations are done by domainers and investors not real people. Quote: [/size]
Thank you for your support on this Paulza i m glad people are coming up to talk about it, we need Global marketing not Geo based on just specific area and if one talks of the time line i guess lot more events have to be added to it, and not only that telnic should leading organizations start using it, if they adapt them self to .tel many other people approaching will notice what .tel is[/size] |
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Making the product usable for real people would be a good start. And would not need as much marketing budget.[/size] |
To be honest, i'm getting the impression that the telnic execs are maybe spending too much time in domain forum's instead of going out and selling this domain to the public at large. Dot tel is like having this great new invention- the light bulb, but trying to convince people they no longer need candles and oil lamps...shouldnt be a hard sell, just need to start letting people know you have this great new technology. This is not so much a domainer's domain, as a domain of interest to the whole world's public for it's ability to replace numbers with words as a communications hub. So where is the publicity for these .tel domains?? Surely they can't leave this up to webnames.ca and the like (in their own small way)...get on and promote this thing! Get a good PR and advertising team onto getting the concept out to the public. Would love to see the ben.tel ad played on tv too..reinvest most of the first year's income from sales into solid campaigns to fund the coming renewals and to drive sales. Give the naysayers a good run for their money! |
I think, in fact, that it IS up to the resellers to get the word out! If telnic had unlimited funds to do the type of promotion everyone here deems necessary I believe we would have already seen it done. If we all sit back and wait for someone else to do the PR that most people here are suggesting, then I'll bet we'll be going over the same discussions a year from now. |
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Sorry guys but until the telinc product managers realize that the .tel platform needs to be much more flexible to be adopted by real people and do the appropriate changes, the .tel adventure will be no more than a huge high-tech MLM scheme. The remaining money they have would be much more well invested in making the product flexible enough to be used by regular businesses itself than publishing more jovialist PR releases. Right now, only domainers and techies purchased the product and I see none, absolutely none, zero, zilchestablished business or commercial directory actively using the product and making it a strategic part of their business plans. (Large companies registered their brand but this is a normal defensive procedure). If anyone here has a proof of the contrary then please post it here.[/size] |
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I guess I'm part of that group you call 'naysayers' Let me tell you. a) I got a good run for my money already thank you. Just not in the right direction, b) Please understand that if people like me speak openly about what they see as problems with this product, it is because they actually care about the future of it. If it was not the case, I would not see why I would spend time here b'tching just for the sake of it I have lots of other fish to fry c) This is not about being a 'believer' or a '"naysayer' (lol sounds like religion doesn'it?). It is about trying to make this thing work instead of buying a couple of domains and waiting for other people to make it a success.[/size] |
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killer stat. There's our reality check. 6 months to renewal time ie next round of funding. Maybe at 1.99 they will get mass adoption. Technology seems ok. Time out for us on this one.[/size] |
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exactly we need existence of .tel people should know there is a domain that is called [size=32].tel[/size] not only that, i heard but i m not sure if i m right they advertised .tel videos in cinemas too they need to do that on regular basis so the hype of .tel comes among youngsters instead of hey this is my twitter or facebook or msn they go .tel me Quote: [/size]
Thank you for your input dotteler, i agree with you but if there is no real buyer how will the resellers count on the few US$ they make from each registration. no would invest in a heavy advertisement especially as this time of the year the way things are going on but telnic can not that they are over loaded but in long run its going to benefit them only. i also plan to be a reseller of .tel but i know i wont go far with it. more over everyone is trying to advertise .tel in their own way i am promoting .tel with AIDS.tel and AIDS.tel is being promoted too. if leading organizations follow AIDS.tel on twitter ( which many have ) they will soon realize they need to get a .tel as well by looking how convenient it can be.[/size] |
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That's the point, i have said this many times but i will repeat my self again i m not a designer or a programmer, but i still thought and do think .tel can be a great success if its worked on and also advertised in the right manner. i want .tel to succeed in every possible way and the only way we are going to make it happen is by analyzing the overall product and its completion, there are so many options for people to choose from then get a .tel and even pay for it, so if it is as good or try to be and then the secret recipe of .tel added to it i think it will blend in more then just a .tel[/size] |
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hope that never happens but looking at trend there are going to be some huge bargains on .tel domains in February 2010[/size] |
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Good advice actually, thanks for teh input. As you say 'naysayers' do float around .tel discussions for other reason's than just trying to knock it, they must have some positive interest in it to keep them coming back to the forums, so it's all good..we do need a variety of input to get it off the ground properly in fact. Of course all this does take time, things just feel quite static right now really...hopefully the ones who need to, will pull their fingers out a bit and get promoting, lol. I often just give out my .tel address now instead of phone number, but you do need some time to explain what your on about...hopefully that will change one day.[/size] |
Excellent discussion everybody. It's good to see all the different views being put across. Just to comment on a few statements made: Quote:
Justin Hayward, our Director of Communications was at TelCamp Toronto and answered individual questions as well as giving a quick speech and news, some of which will be coming out shortly. He was not developer focused in his piece, talking more broadly about the vision. And indeed, there were people from a number of different industries there. "On May, 21 was announced 200.000 registrations, today, September, 4 is about 210 000...." Those numbers are incorrect and do not show the number of registered .tel domains, only the number validated. We are aware that some registrars have been waiting for their end users to set their .tel domains up as multi-language support was not available until recently and they're re-focusing on getting these validated now. "...i'm getting the impression that the telnic execs are maybe spending too much time in domain forum's instead of going out and selling this domain to the public at large." The execs out there working hard on deals and promotion. We have some great new resellers coming on board and that's been the focus for many of those. Nadya and I are here, however to moderate, help with any specific issues people may be reporting and listen to the comments and suggestions that are made here. Further information will come out in due course (in short order). In the meantime, we strongly believe that with regards to .tel, usage is key to value, which in turn will bring monetization and growth. All .tel owners can play a part in this by making the .tel experience a good one for those visiting them through populating them with useful information.[/size] |
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Good to know that the videos are coming out. I appreciate your effort in providing the information. I hope we could see the future telcamp videos in more organised form rather and not as something like on demand/request release.[/size] |
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Thanks Howard. Let's talk about usage then Please give us examples of established businesses who are really using their .tel as a strategic part of their communications. I'm not talking about start-ups, resellers, domainers. Say we have roughly 210 000 domains now, and being conservative, we assume that 10% are using the domain for the business (90% being domainers / trademark owners). This would mean 2100 active .tel's. Let's see how large companies are using their .tel's Here are the 10 top listed companies on the S&P 500 1) Exxon Mobil exxon.tel (only contains a link to exxon.com) 2) Procter & Gamble ProcterGamble.tel (registered but inactive) 3) General Electric ge.tel (not valid) generalelectric.tel (squatted) 4) AT&T att.tel (only contains a link to att.com) 5) Johnson and Johnson jandj.tel (registered but parked) 6) Chevron chevron.tel (squatted) 7) Microsoft microsoft.tel (registered but inactive) 8) Wal-Mart walmart.tel (squatted) 9) Pfizer pfizer.tel (only contains a link to pfizer.com) 10) JPMorgan Chase & Co. jpmorgan.tel (only contains a link to jpmorgan.com) ------------------ Total .tel used : 0[/size] |
