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Is this the end ? See http://www.teltalk.org/t400-is-every...-is-there#1674 |
I think you are the end ! |
Dutch, you still don't get it do you ! THE ONLY WAY ARE MAKING MONEY ON .TEL IS WITH A PORN SITE - http://sexgids.tel Anyone can make money with a porn web site, so it's hardly a ringing endorsement of the .tel concept ! Get real Dutch, it appears for you porn is the answer, I bet your family are really proud of you ? End of discussion. Mike Seaton |
Hey Mike, sell your tels or develop them. Mark |
Well we eat, we drink, we laugh, what more needs a human! We are happy :-) Mabey you have invested to much, i dont now ? But dont let it gett under your skin men, cheer up ! Telnic is not the end of the world, its just like the casino ! CONTROL |
It is very difficult to monetize .tel sites. What we urgently need is a method of accepting payments and Telnic just spent two years developing new templates. You can have thousand new nameplates and not be able to monetize them unless you are prepared to go from business to business and ask them to pay you cash for your services. |
You can put your paypal button if you like |
its been the end for about a year, we just didnt realise it/want to believe it, but this renewal time round, ive renewed 7 dot.tels, but i fear that it was 7 too many, to go from over 300 1st yr, to about 80 2nd yr, to 7 this yr, good luck to all who are still throwing large amounts at this extension all i can say is the naysayers were right,and are still laughing at us 3 yrs on, this horse is dead, but feel free to whip some more................. daytonac |
More people would buy a .tel if they could buy it from their smartphone ... and then set it up right there on the spot ... |
This automatic setup is what is missing with all registrars at the moment. I contacted name.com and suggested that they automatically initiate a setup wizard upon registration. They said that was a great idea, went off to discuss with their teams and two weeks later said they wouldn't do it. What Telnames has with reg'n is what all registrars should have. But seems Telnic never pushed that as a facility. Telnic should have had that implemented three years ago. Instead they are doing that only with their Telnames brand, not the professional .tel. If you were to buy a .Tel through your smartphone then there should be a wizard to setup it up right there before people ask "what next" and then lose interest. This needs to be in place not only for Telnames but all .Tel sales. Mark |
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Hi Daytonac, were you able to sell many of the original 300? If so; at good prices?[/size] |
i think all up, ive sold about 18, the highest for $100, so let alot fall off, and yes i may not have promoted them as good as i could, but then who is. all i know is that when the 2 major telco companies (in australia) let there dot.tels fall off, thats it, shes done, because if they can't be bothered renewing them, how do they expect others to use it. |
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Absolutely agree Mark... Wizards for initial or quick setup... Like how Google does it. That and easy and flexible tools for adding logos, pics, ads, videos, etc. I don't mean to take away from what you have done Mark or others providing such bulk tools, but seriously - what was Telnic thinking? Why would millions of people pay for what others are offering for free plus much more? First of all Telnic needs to expand its development team. Then it needs to keep rolling out improvements, features, etc at a steady pace, responsive to Tel owners. The product right now, from a user pt of view is that it's a half baked cake.[/size] |
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Wordpress's free model a good example. There are over 200 themes for that platform on sign-up. Only problem...no integrated domain Telnic has in fact a 1-up with "integrated domain in the box".... Just open up the toolset, .tel will fly.[/size] |
All technical stuff aside, people generally have no interest in whether the data is stored in DNS records or some Telnic server... They care about what they can do with their Tel domain... They care about: - what they can show (content, media, logo, etc) - how they can customize and create their own look - discoverability (being found) - securing their privacy ( levels of privacy ) - easy and quick to manage - what they can do with it (socialize, interact, advertise, connect) - how they can monetize it (domainer mindset) If and when Telcos ever implement the tech side to it's potential really depends on whether or not critical mass is behind the use of Tels; the question is how to get that critical popularity to which I respond provide the users a fully baked cake. Tel is basically just a directory at this point - make that work fully too, so businesses especially can see the value - both thru SEO and Telpages. On top of that Telnic needs to build a real community buzz ; they need more than just a Telpages search - they need to bring Telowners together. What Telnic offers right now in terms of an |
All technical stuff aside, people generally have no interest in whether the data is stored in DNS records or some Telnic server... They care about what they can do with their Tel domain... They care about: - what they can show (content, media, logo, etc) - how they can customize and create their own look - discoverability (being found) - securing their privacy ( levels of privacy ) - easy and quick to manage - what they can do with it (socialize, interact, advertise, connect) - how they can monetize it (domainer mindset) If and when Telcos ever implement the tech side to it's potential really depends on whether or not critical mass is behind the use of Tels; the question is how to get that critical popularity to which I respond provide the users a fully baked cake. Tel is basically just a directory at this point - make that work fully too, so businesses especially can see the value - both thru SEO and Telpages. On top of that Telnic needs to build a real community buzz ; they need more than just a Telpages search - they need to bring Telowners together. What Telnic offers right now in terms of an Online business card is a decent start, but it's quite boring and onerous at this point. As a domain, Tel's potential lies in the turnkey opportunity to get a web presence up and running with no fussing over hosting. Work that end of things now and then when there are 10 million happy Tel owners maybe the Telcos will consider making it possible to dial someone with a Tel address instead of a 10 digit number. As it stands there's nothing else a Tel offers that any other domain name cant provide and much more. Any domain could serve the same function as Ben.Tel. |
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Sureyl @daytonac's news is a wake up to call to do what @boracay suggests below! Quote: [/size]
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Yes, I think Wordpress is a good model for Telnic to consider... Start with the equivalent of Wordpress.com - out of the box free working place to call home with a central point to connect from, and get SEO boost, plus plenty of turnkey templates and plugins to make your mark.... For the more adventurous there are more options such as configure and host it yourself. At the same time a whole industry sprung up around WP selling deluxe themes, plugins and customization. This is what Tel needs. I believe the folks at Telnic need to think less like a registry and more like social networkers... If they want to change the world.[/size] |
The obstacle to any kind of 'freemium' model is that Telnic would still have to pay ICANN fees. The fundamental problem remains that there's very little value in owning a .tel domain, whether or not it's free. To change that they need to build meaningful partnerships with other service providers, but evidently (after 3.5+ years) such a proposition has not been sufficiently convincing. I think Telnic could stimulate more demand if they liberalised the A record restriction, allowing people to use .tel domains for generic websites as an option. They could even charge an additional fee for this. They should also become more developer friendly and encourage alternative TelHosting providers, rather than stifle them. |
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The ICANN fee is a few cents only. Should that be really a problem? Quote: [/size]
Telnic have given their statement to this suggestion already: Quote: [/size]
Alternatives to redirects are possible (without using A records), but Telnic won't change its strategy quickly. Quote: [/size]
Besides all other activities and suggestions this is an indispensable requirement for success, but Telnic have shown clearly they don't want to do this! .tel won't be successful until developers are allowed to take part! The only thing we can do is waiting a few years until Telnic understand this, too![/size] |
