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Hi Jens, I understand your concern and frustration, but it is important to appreciate that what we have with .tel is only Phase 1 - it is Phase 2 with its ability to have a single contact point AUTOMATICALLY dial/email/Skype etc. using DNS lookups that will make .tel a success! Telnic have stated that they are waiting for "critical mass" before they feel they can persuade the Telcos etc. to modify their systems to do the DNS lookups - the only danger I see currently is that with the huge number of drops the "critical mass" figure (whatever it is) will be too long in being reached, with the danger that .tel may get overtaken by other immediately available "dial-by-name" services. The development of hardware, software and internet services has shown that "first mover advantage" can mean that an inferior product ends up dominating a marketplace. IMO the move to Phase 2 may be necessary very soon - even without the ideal "critical mass" being achieved - the drops of premium names recently has been quite amazing. I still believe in the future of .tel very strongly - but having invested heavily in .tel I will be a lot happier once Phase 2 is launched and the public then have a chance to "get the .tel idea". Mike Seaton[/size] |
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I guess those 2 questions are for Telnic to answer - hopefully a response will be forthcoming from them on this thread. Mike Seaton[/size] |
Jens - I think you communicate the frustrations of domain holders well. Its a bit of a chicken-and-egg argument - we won't build it until they come (being the critical mass argument from Telnic), but no-one is going to come unless something is built that attracts people. Whilst .tel may be techcnially great, it is of little value to the broader market that is concerned about presentation. Personally, I can't be arsed developing my domains at this time because they look, frankly - well I won't be frank because I appreciate a lot of work has gone into what we have - but the current appearance detracts from what could be a great offering. Give me the templates that were identified in the recent competition (and preferably some customisability of sub-domains such as colours and ideally templates). I can SELL the look-and-feel of the proposed templates to business people in my surrounding regional business districts, but I am not going to stand up in front of business groups if all I can show them is the existing template. I have around 40-odd local small businesses that can't afford a full website (when factoring in all of the associated costs) that will have me build and manage .tel domains for them (along with cross-entries in Google Places and other free business directories for SEO) WHEN the new templates are there. Then that will allow us to get more .tels sold, which increases interest, and builds into a virtuous cycle. PLEASE - new templates as a priority over further technical whiz-bang development. |
I also worry about the greatest domain innovations defeated by unpredictable mass behaviour. Maybe telnic can think about a global strategy by introducing a big cooperation partner. .tel not only a normal domain,it is a web production.If we treat it as a domain,it will fail quicker than others. |
Myself I wonder where all the development effort is going and taking so long to deliver anything of value? I don't think new templates or new CTH is the answer. I favour development of visual apps for tel domains - mobile and augmented reality - apps that can put tel on the map. I still believe tel is ideal for small business and no longer solely a point of real-time contact - that dream is gone. The power in Tel is for small business. There has to be a way for Telnic to get the word out to the huge small business community that doesn't have a web site, that .tel is their answer to greater discovery and being more competitive. So easy to use but no one is using it. I still am buying on the drops but focusing for local use of tels now. Large directories I am not a fan of as the impact will be local with .tel. and standard proxy cannot handle huge directories. I have asked Telnic to convert my on the map app into something more robust. Today, I hear that they are looking at visualization, sure hope that a lot of substantial effort goes there soon as I believe the answer is in going local. Local coupons, local deals, all in control of the .tel small business owner but with the knowledge that apps exist that will let people discover all these wonderful realtime deals and information that small biz provides locally. Mark |
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Mark, hopefully your work can be included ASAP. don't forget (options options options)[/size] |
Mark, RE your small business target, in the USA and I assume elsewhere, small business is actually very big business, in the US if one believes the stats it represents an unbelievable 99.7 % of all employer firms thus a pretty big target. |
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apple. 200+ million mobile handsets out there, adding millions more every month everybody is getting a free email service, contacts, calendars etc etc. lots more ...but still missing an easy to setup website! sigh. (i know, leave it alone) but hey, the facts are there. millions of mobile handsets. (and a thousand engineers to speed things along)[/size] |
I know it is very hot to set up open-platform by famous website. They are snatching customer to expand their sevices geometrically. |
EVOLUTION SEARCH--->MAGIC MAP To me, of all ideas of .tel that I have tested, what I like the best is http://telview.co/nearmenow.php of Mark. telview.co = MAGIC MAP . Must be joint the map, the search, the local coupon, the VoIP, ... in only one magic place. The owner have the control from the domain.tel, but get the results only from one place, easy to access. Telpages, telfriends, Vcard, telcos, VoIP (no yet)... I think the people won´t use it. But the idea of telview.co is pefect because you use a map, a local map, coupons, searchs, and the owners of domains can change the coupons on line, or fine things. All must be in one magic place. The search now is very poor, but if we change the actual search for a "MAGIC MAP" the people with say when open it "wouw this is magic" |
My interest in .tel started as a domainer and is now as a potential enduser. I have dropped my domainer like purchases and am keeping only the domains which I would like to take further as an end user. 99% of these domains revolve around locations. In other tlds my position is the complete opposite keeping a domainer like collection of keywords the majority of which do not relate to locations but ecommerce and media. Domains dropping do not worry me. My thoughts on this are that .tel will not have a thriving domain (end user) market for at the very least 3-6 years. As others have mentioned a high percentage of the drops currently are domains which one would struggle to sell in .info/biz/me. Other drops include short term investors/tasters dropping domains that they would not flip or have got bored with. I am sure there are also keywords dropping from people such as those that are on this forum that are trimming and refining and improving portfolios. What does worry me as it does with the majority who posted into this thread is the fact that the technology; both the design templates and associated tech is not yet stable. I am sure there are quite a few people who are holding on for new templates prior to developing apps or entering on to work or even getting listings for directorys. As Jens says lots of ideas and in my view not to much in terms of financial developmental commitment. Surely more money should be thrown into the pot for development? I am struggling to work what the short/mid term goal is, beyond getting as many .tels sold as possible. Part of it seems to be aimed at getting everyone on it and the other side seems to be aiming only for yellow page type directory companys to boost. While I can acknolodge I see this would boost registration I cant see this type of .tel use, pushing it to the innovative interactive "single point of contact" communication tool it has the potential to be. In my opinion the telnic team that are infront of the public do a great job, listening and interacting with the public to ensure the ideas are listened to and where possible taken forward. However while I see the potential of .tel as fantastic, I see us on the top of an edge if things dont move forward quickly it will get over taken by other ideas concepts and tools and be to late. Telnic a question for you if I may. What are you guys waiting for is there no more money in the pot to get more developers in and re energise your innovation or is telnic trying to bootstrap untill a buyout? Kash what is your outlook on this. |
Good news is that Telnic is hiring two developers, additional ones I hope ie not replacing lost staff. Anyways I hope Telnic replies to this very important thread. Mark |
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In this moment is easy and perfect the App of Mark (telview) integrated in the domain.tel and for the mobile. This is by now, don´t need nothing else. Later will go to call by names, but later, when the comunications will be NGN and the mobile will be LTE (4G), all will be IPv6, but will be in 5 years. Forget the Telcos, they have another problems, and his roadmap are different. The same with Yellow pages, his problems are differents, and the roadmap is to the death. In this moment, In geolocation and coupons online, Telnic can be very strong, so lets go to be the best in the world in geolocation Later, also will can pay with VISA (telchina??) Automatic change of call (phase 2)... But this, doesn´t work now. In this moment to integrate the telview in the domain.tel must be very easy, and only depent of Telnic and MarK. The rest, telfriend, VCard, search, Telpages... We don´t see very interesting, so we don´t transmit that to the rest, so nobody use it. We must put something that we are proud to transmit to the rest, but first we must be proud. When I saw the search, I said OK, when I saw the telpages, I said OK, When I saw the VCard I said OK ... But When I saw the idea of Mark I said"Wow this is genial" My neighbor fith, can say that sells an old book, and find it the neighbor first. This is a new concept of trade that can change the world, and everyone will want to have a domain.tel because can see all his local zone, and can be interactive with this, can put online publicity to the rest of the comunity.[/size] |
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Great to news to hear[/size] |
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Perfect. Telnic must be the leader, don´t depent of the rest (Telcos, Yellow pages, VoIP...). Telnic should go ahead of innovation, not behind[/size] |
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Telnic do a deal with Apple to give a free .tel with every iPhone4 purchased between now and November 2011 (rumoured month of iPhone5 launch). Apple is happy - this helps shift dealer stocks of iPhone4 prior to iPhone5 launch. Telnic is happy - "critical mass" is reached which means they now have sufficient quantity of .tels registered to offer Telcos etc. a reason to modify their systems to do automatic DNS lookups so enabling Phase 2 to be launched. Registrars are happy - greater prominence of .tels means more registrations and far less drops so more renewal fees. Developers are happy - the greater number of .tels registered means it is financially worthwhile developing 3rd party .tel applications. Investors are happy - they can at last see a reason to hang onto their .tels and not "lose the faith". Just a dream? Mike Seaton[/size] |
[QUOTE=mikeseaton;15245]Telnic do a deal with Apple to give a free .tel with every iPhone4 purchased between now and November 2011 (rumoured month of iPhone5 launch). Mike, Something along these lines, Apple Just handed Twitter the Keys to the iOS Kingdom http://techcrunch.com/2011/06/09/twitter-ios/ |
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Less than 50,000 are probably populated and the rest parked, so even at a 1 million regs, if no one uses or exposes .tel, no critical mass is achieved. I populate ever single one of my 100's of tels. If everyone did the same, maybe there would be more visibility. It's easy enough to do, so why are so many of you sitting on your empty tels? So much for any teeth in Telnic's AUP. BTW I'm writing a generic Facebook app that I hope can gain some visibility. Pop in some popular domain names and get some traction. Maybe some other folks have some initiatives too. I'll share mine soon. Mark[/size] |
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Yes, you did, but you are also still buying daily like many others, so a little content even an icon or message will the cause. Mark[/size] |
