SEO at Telnames

@All

Please stick to the facts. Provocations help no one.
This forum is not intended to shout out your anger.

Telnames gives a hint what to do on the blog today: Help customers find you! When I opened the article I thought I would get some information how I can find a .TEL, but the advice is only to add a Google map to your profile. That doesn't help if I can't find the .TEL in the first place.

4444 wrote:Telnames gives a hint what to do on the blog today: Help customers find you! When I opened the article I thought I would get some information how I can find a .TEL, but the advice is only to add a Google map to your profile. That doesn't help if I can't find the .TEL in the first place.

It's so obvious a problem - I do wish Telnames would get real with this issue !

If you look at the Telnames new registrations found in the top left of http://www.Dottel.net - you will notice that many are being made by internet web site newbies who seem to believe that registering LocationService.tel or ServiceLocation.tel will get you found on the first page (the only one that really matters) of major search engines.

IT WON'T !

So much more is required - reasonable length and relevance of content, directory entries (eg. the missing Tel Global Directory for a start), multiple natural-looking backlinks (with varied anchor text), links from blogs, etc, etc.

And to achieve a first page SERPS ranking on a significant search query for a single-page domain of any extension is very difficult - not impossible of course if you have good SEO experience and can put the hours on - but not really realistic for Telnames web site newbies.

http://MikeSeaton.tel

mikeseaton wrote:And to achieve a first page SERPS ranking on a significant search query for a single-page domain of any extension is very difficult

Nobody should expect a miracle to appear on the first page of search engines quickly, but Telnic takes away every opportunity to try it at all. With Telnic it's already impossible without the possibility to enter text, but with Telnames you will be always overlooked.
In a way Telnames is the logical progression of Telnic: SEO for .TEL has already bad results - why not ignoring it entirely?

What if Telnames is not interested in providing detectable domains?
Since Telnames aims inexperienced users, maybe the target is to sell the service to those who don't think and ask about if anybody will find the domains.

Yes, and that is the recipe for disaster. 

Personally I would have far more respect for Telnic if it admitted it was completely clueless and asked for help from the (declining) .tel community.

TelBlogger wrote:Personally I would have far more respect for Telnic if it admitted it was completely clueless and asked for help from the (declining) .tel community.

Several times over the last couple of years I have suggested to Telnic on both their own forum (before being banned) and TelTalk that they get consultancy advice from this company founded by 2 domain  industry experts with a proven track record in delivering results !

As usual, the suggestion was ignored !

http://MikeSeaton.tel

Comparison of the SEO quality for .com and .tel:

1. Keyword search: "Telnames Mobile Website Builder"

Telnames.com

Google: rank 1
Yahoo: rank 1
Bing: rank 1

Telnames.tel

Google: not found
Yahoo: not found
Bing: not found

2. Keyword search: ".tel Mobile Website"

Telnames.com

Google: rank 1
Yahoo: not found
Bing: not found

Telnames.tel

Google: not found
Yahoo: not found
Bing: not found

3. Keyword search: ".tel"

Telnames.com

Google: rank 15
Yahoo: not found
Bing: not found

Telnames.tel

Google: not found
Yahoo: not found
Bing: not found

This comparison shows that .tel has no chance to fight a .com.
But I'm surprised about something else:
Telnames.com can't be found for important keywords like "Mobile Website Builder" or "Mobile Website" either.
Nobody at Telnames did search engine optimization neither for Telnames.com nor for Telnames.tel!
How can a company busy in mobile marketing forget the most important activity?
Telnic really needs some help from a specialist! Telnic doesn't know the basics!

Sunrise wrote:Telnic really needs some help from a specialist!

Here's the consultancy they need to contact, founded by 2 guys with a track record of success in the domain industry !

http://MikeSeaton.tel

If Telnames added a link to http://www.telnames.com entitled
Telnames .tel Domain Names that would add a bit (diluted because of quantity) of "link juice" to each Telnames domain, but more importantly would ensure that the search engine spiders who visit Telnames.com also indexed the Telnames .tels listed here.
 
Mind you, with Bing, Google & Yahoo spiders virtually in permanent residence at TelTalk, the main benefit would be in getting Telnames .tels listed in "second tier" search engines - but Free Traffic is welcome from these as well !
 
http://MikeSeaton.tel

Telnames tries to make us believe that SEO for Telnames is good enough:
http://blog.telnames.com/why-it-pays-to-get-listed-online/

Sunrise wrote:Telnames tries to make us believe that SEO for Telnames is good enough:
http://blog.telnames.com/why-it-pays-to-get-listed-online/

In this case Telnic still has no knowledge about SEO.

Nobody can find a Telname from Telnames, but at least Telnames.com has some traffic: http://twitter.com/tel_names/status/382076538390192128

Tim Spears wrote:Nobody can find a Telname from Telnames, but at least Telnames.com has some traffic: http://twitter.com/tel_names/status/382076538390192128

Here's a suggestion how to make money with .tel!

Don't buy a .tel - buy a .com: http://www.whatsyourtel.com/t80-telnamescom-clone

Even Telnic and Telnames need a .com to sell a .tel. How they want to convince their customers that a .tel is enough for them?

4444 wrote:Even Telnic and Telnames need a .com to sell a .tel. How they want to convince their customers that a .tel is enough for them?

They aren't convincing their customers, and they never will.

When you have a website in any normal tld extension, you only have a need to advertise your own .com or .anythingotherthantel at a service that can bring you traffic.

Yellow Pages, Google AdSense, TV, Radio, Magazines, etc. are places to advertise your .com

With these however, you are not purchasing another domain name as a reason to use their service, you are purchasing advertising space.

(The truth is that with Yellow Pages, Google AdSense and any other Internet advertising, including Facebook or Twitter, you ARE actually "purchasing" another domain name, free or not.)

YellowPages.com/yourlisting
Google.com/yourad
Facebook.com/yourface
Twitter.com/yourtweet

The difference is that the aforementioned businesses aren't LAME enough to advertise this as a reason to own one.

"Hey get your very own additional .com tld at Yellow Pages, Google, Facebook, or Twitter and share it with others."

Duh, they're not stupid. They promote their SERVICE, which is the ability to get traffic, and with an identity for you that just HAPPENS to be another domain name/address.

The only SERVICE that .tel is valuable for is Traffic in its own Directory.

"GET LISTED IN THE WORLDS FIRST GLOBAL TELEPHONE DIRECTORY" for "only this much per year" and "pick your own Directory Address before all the good ones are gone" !

Duh.  Unless there is a directory service, .tel is DEAD.

Remember that the smoke and mirrors of .TEL is a PAID service for a URL that leads to your contact information.

Unless .TEL has a directory, why pay for anything? NO REASON !

For Example, A FREE Listing in the Yellow Pages:

www.yell.com/biz/telnic-london-6336711/

Then SHORTEN it for a Short, Unique, Memorable Address:

goo.gl/BClRS4

Then SPEND money to advertise it elsewhere ???????

.TEL is pointless unless you have a REAL Telnames Directory for your Telnames .tel, a REAL reason to buy a better PAID Listing.

You might as well just use FREE services in REAL Directories where you will actually get your information FOUND to begin with.

Duh.