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    Dot Tel Total Registrations 1st May 2012

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    Post by Telnic 2015-01-01, 2:40 pm

    mikeseaton05-09-2012 12:00 PM




    Dot Tel Total Registrations 1st May 2012
     
    ...are still not available at http://www.hosterstats.com/DomainNameCounts2012.php

    So maybe we need to use the figure at http://www.dottel.net to monitor .tel's progress - today 9 May shows 276,742 registrations - perhaps dottel.net could post the figure from 1 May from his records ? 

    For comparison purposes the figures for Jan-Dec 2011 can be found at http://www.hosterstats.com/DomainNameCounts2011.php

    Mike Seaton

    dottel.net05-09-2012 12:05 PM




    hi - i could publish end of month figures but believe telrific is already publishing a monthly chart using my numbers.

    telrific?

    if not, happy to start publishing the end of month number if folks want this.

    telrific05-09-2012 12:39 PM




    Quote:



    Originally Posted by dottel.net (Post 23391)
    hi - i could publish end of month figures but believe telrific is already publishing a monthly chart using my numbers.

    telrific?

    if not, happy to start publishing the end of month number if folks want this.



    [size]
    Yes, that's correct, I'll re-post May here:

    Registrations.tel

    :)[/size]

    mikeseaton05-09-2012 03:21 PM




    @telrific

    The registration chart at http://registrations.telverified.com doesn't show any numbers (beyond the grid line every 100,000) - could this facility be added so that as you place the mouse over the stat entry the number of registrations is displayed ?

    Mike Seaton

    telrific05-09-2012 04:43 PM




    Quote:



    Originally Posted by mikeseaton (Post 23403)
    @telrific

    The registration chart at http://registrations.telverified.com doesn't show any numbers (beyond the grid line every 100,000) - could this facility be added so that as you place the mouse over the stat entry the number of registrations is displayed ?

    Mike Seaton



    [size]
    I tried to add it and it came out "not very readable" as a tag.

    So, I just tightened the range in, added lines so you can approximate better, and even
    added a logarithmic trendline for reference.

    This helps the ability to see it a bit clearer as to the number change anyway.

    :o[/size]

    mikeseaton05-09-2012 05:04 PM




    @telrific

    The graph at http://registrations.telverified.com is now a great improvement - thanks - and shows the trend of .tel registrations very clearly !

    Shame about not being able to add the physical numbers - hopefully http://www.hosterstats.com/DomainNameCounts2012.php will be updated soon.

    Mike Seaton

    telrific05-09-2012 05:12 PM




    Quote:



    Originally Posted by mikeseaton (Post 23409)
    @telrific

    The graph at http://registrations.telverified.com is now a great improvement - thanks - and shows the trend of .tel registrations much clearer !

    Shame about not being able to add the physical numbers - hopefully http://www.hosterstats.com/DomainNameCounts2012.php will be updated soon.

    Mike Seaton



    [size]
    You're welcome, this will likely be all there is.

    As the sources for the actual numbers vary, the precise number is probably lost to us all anyway.

    The chart shows a number that can be realized at around the appropriate 10K marks.

    Anything tighter is arguable anyway, so this averaging works for charting purposes.

    (added) Hopefully we can make minor marks at the 100,000 level and major marks at the 1,000,000 level in a few years !

    :)[/size]

    dottel.net05-10-2012 04:55 PM




    for those interested in looking at the wider picture, here's my blog post from last year showing the drops vs reg stats:
    http://tel-domain.blogspot.co.uk/201...rop-chart.html

    key point was that by this time last year, the bulk of the drops had taken place and the overall reg count stabilised. If that trend is followed again this year, then the overall reg count hasn't dropped significantly and should remain in the 270-280k range.

    If I get time, I'll re-run the numbers and create a new chart for this year

    mikeseaton05-14-2012 03:19 PM




    14 May and still no figure from HosterStats at http://www.hosterstats.com/DomainNameCounts2012.php !

    However checking http://www.dottel.net today shows a total figure for 14 May 2012 of 275,427

    DOWN 15,888 or 5.45% from 1st April 2012 figure of 291,315

    DOWN 37,932 or 12.10% from 1st January 2012 figure of 313,359

    So why hasn't the obviously essential WORLDWIDE marketing of .tel to "Joe Public" started yet ?

    Mike Seaton

    wibblenut05-14-2012 05:07 PM




    And it could get even worse - buyatel.com reports there are a further 31,222 domains in the drop cycle. Assuming they all drop, that would result in a 22% fall on January's total.

    Most of them are probably domainer junk (judging by the drop lists I've seen!), but losing more than a fifth of your revenue in 5 months is quite embarrassing.

    It's unclear what you mean by a "worldwide marketing". To have any impact they'd have to commit to spending £mm (just in one country, e.g. the UK). Does Telnic have enough belief in its product to attempt that?

    They should first liberalise TelHosting to resellers (drop the registrar requirement) and hope some other teams build a better product than CTH that has a chance of resonating with people more strongly. But I don't hold out much hope for that.

    You live and learn.

    mikeseaton05-14-2012 05:54 PM




    Quote:



    Originally Posted by wibblenut (Post 23570)
    It's unclear what you mean by a "worldwide marketing".


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    There are so many things that could be done to promote .tel worldwide.

    I, along with many others on this forum, have listed numerous possible marketing ideas over the last 12 months, so I'm not going to repeat them any more (a search of this forum will find many) and as far as I can recall not a single suggestion has been acted upon !

    I have also recently stressed the desirability and effectiveness (you only pay for results) of International Affiliate programs such as those instantly available fromhttp://www.CJ.com and http://www.TradeDoubler.com - again no action taken on this !

    I like the new Telnames image-based template and it could perhaps generate enough interest and sales to personal and small business customers to make .tel a success - but only if it is marketed worldwide and there is no sign at all of that happening.

    I do feel for those on this forum who have, and continue to, build their businesses on the Telnic 3000 folder templates - I am not convinced these templates will still be offered by major registrars in 12 months time, many of whom I believe will do a deal with Telnames for the 1-page template (with Telnames managing the TelHosting for them).

    I really can't add anything else to this post that's not already been said before by so many of us - the nice thing about banging your head against a brick wall is when you stop doing it !

    Mike Seaton[/size]

    dottel.net05-15-2012 02:47 AM




    Quote:



    Originally Posted by wibblenut (Post 23570)
    And it could get even worse - buyatel.com reports there are a further 31,222 domains in the drop cycle. Assuming they all drop, that would result in a 22% fall on January's total.


    [size]
    just to clarify, the Dottel drop count at buyatel.com actually is already reflected in the total registration numbers. when a name is removed from the zone file, the overall count is updated on that day even though there is a potential 65 days before the name actually drops. during this drop period, the count is captured and monitored athttp://buyatel.com

    hope that clears up any confusion.... the running count at http://dottel.net is the daily count direct from the zone file.[/size]

    boracay.tel05-15-2012 11:18 AM




    Quote:



    Originally Posted by mikeseaton (Post 23572)

    I like the new Telnames image-based template and it could perhaps generate enough interest and sales to personal and small business customers to make .tel a success

    Mike Seaton



    [size]
    It has in my family anyway. (very positive feedback)
    Just the option of some new templates, to add some colorful modern presentation possibilities.

    That's what many newbies will want[/size]

    mikeseaton05-17-2012 12:59 PM




    Given that we're 17 days into the month it does look like HosterStats has given up reporting .tel registrations at http://www.hosterstats.com/DomainNameCounts2012.php

    So it looks like http://www.dottel.net is the best bet for future registration stats - looking forward to seeing the Telnames figure on this now the Business Startup show is underway.

    Mike Seaton

    dottel.net05-17-2012 01:17 PM




    as of last night there were 224 domains on the telnames nameserver.

    Mark Kolb (Kprobe)05-17-2012 01:44 PM




    Except 34 are test domains leaving 190 real domains.
    Mark

    mikeseaton05-17-2012 05:03 PM




    Quote:



    Originally Posted by Mark Kolb (Kprobe) (Post 23690)
    Except 34 are test domains leaving 190 real domains.


    [size]
    Of which 164 domains are currently in Google's database.

    Mike Seaton[/size]

    dottel.net05-17-2012 05:08 PM




    interesting... i see 177 being returned by my custom google based tel search engine

    mikeseaton05-17-2012 05:11 PM




    Quote:



    Originally Posted by dottel.net (Post 23708)
    interesting... i see 177 being returned by my custom google based tel search engine


    [size]
    That's because you are not adding -test -check after "powered by telnames.com" so you are picking up test .tels as well - I prefer to exclude them !

    Mike Seaton[/size]

    dottel.net05-17-2012 05:17 PM




    makes sense.
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    Post by Telnic 2015-01-01, 2:40 pm

    mikeseaton05-20-2012 03:26 PM




    340 Average Net Loss per Day in .tel Registrations
     
    Here are the recent .tel Total Registration figures (including the Telnames .tels sold at the Business Startup show):

    291,315 1 April 2012 (source http://www.hosterstats.com/DomainNameCounts2012.php)

    274,648 20 May 2012 (source http://www.dottel.net

    16,667 Total Net Loss over 49 Days

    340 Average Net Loss per Day

    Mike Seaton

    Mark Kolb (Kprobe)05-20-2012 04:00 PM




    With drops like this and those still coming through the end of June, it shows that Telnic needs to smarten up to save this TLD. It's a perfect package for small business, yet their focus on developing TelNames to spite the registrars will backfire. 

    Telnic needs to embrace registrars now by providing them with more tools to encourage use after sale. Registrars need the ability to upsell SEO to small business right after the sale. Telnic believes that would be the registrars' responsibility and YES it should be, but Telnic needs to provide them with the marketing materials and tools to do that. 

    A post sale program of helping SMB to improve their site should be implemented immediately. 

    Mark

    mikeseaton05-20-2012 04:09 PM




    Quote:



    Originally Posted by Mark Kolb (Kprobe) (Post 23895)
    With drops like this and those still coming through the end of June, it shows that Telnic needs to smarten up to save this TLD.


    [size]
    Why not call in the cavalry with a proven track record in TLD promotion ?

    Quote:
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    We’re a consulting group offering domain industry expertise to help you launch your new TLD and reignite existing Top Level Domains.


    [size]
    Mike Seaton[/size]

    mikeseaton05-21-2012 10:31 PM




    Quote:



    Originally Posted by mikeseaton (Post 23568)
    However checking http://www.dottel.net today shows a total figure for 14 May 2012 of 275,427


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    And still dropping even after Telnames presence at the Business Startup exhibition !

    Today's 21 May Total Registrations from http://www.dottel.net gives a figure of 274,501 - down a further 926 !

    What's the Plan C from Telnic/Telnames ? (Telnic's current 5 templates = Plan A, Telnames image-based template = Plan B). 

    Mike Seaton[/size]

    mikeseaton05-22-2012 07:05 PM




    @dottel.net

    Will you be adding the Telnames total reg figure to http://www.dottel.net shortly ?

    Mike Seaton

    dottel.net05-22-2012 11:34 PM




    codes been there for days if not weeks - just didn't flick the switch cos of the single digit daily regs.

    guess folks want to see the breakdown, so switch flicked
    from tmrw you'll see the breakdown by IDNs, TC & TN.

    mikeseaton05-22-2012 11:39 PM




    Quote:



    Originally Posted by dottel.net (Post 23951)
    ...from tmrw you'll see the breakdown by IDNs, TC & TN.


    [size]
    Thanks, Mike Seaton[/size]

    Mark Kolb (Kprobe)05-23-2012 04:01 AM




    Another 5 Telnames Tuesday.
    Mark

    dottel.net05-23-2012 09:01 AM




    Dottel.net has been updated to now show the TN count below the overall reg count.

    Let me know if there's any other info you'd all like to see.

    itld05-29-2012 07:26 PM




    285,784 on 1 May registration from HosterStatrs

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