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Indexing Hi Aled, Any progress on improving indexing speed? |
Hello Blunderer, We are still working on making improvements, which is likely to be an ongoing process. Thanks, Aled |
Thanks Aled. If you could get it down to less than a week, consistently, that would be helpful. |
I can assure that the telpages.com is indexing pages as we expected. Well 7-10 days depending on the number of pages and methods you use for crawling. We did study the pattern first (see discussions with Aled somewhere in this forum, not too long ago) who telpages.com doing its job. It indexed 2100 pages within 7-10 days (can not give the exact figs as we provided two different crawling paths from two other domains for our hidden tel pages.) The results are here http://d0.webproxy.nic.tel/search/al...ton/alston.tel (This example is only 2100 pages from one domain. We have created about 250 similar domains for our project). Yes. Satisfied with the job done by telpages.com.\ ++++ |
7-10 days? That rather negates the instant in instantly updatable. It also means that I have to wait two weeks before I can invoice customers - they like to see that their searchable keywords are actually searchable. Let me know when you can find borlotti bean casserole on TelPages. |
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Well, indexing is different from updating. Updating - When you change the contents of a .tel page, then it updates your page instantly. Indexing - Indexing is done by crawling through all the .tel pages in a .tel domain. During this process Crawlers (robots) of search engines such as telpages.com go through the content and decide what to be recorded according to specific algorithms. These recorded pages/content are then published for searching. ++++[/size] |
We hope Telnic will expedite their improvements on the telpage.com and increase the frequency of indexing so that the indexed pages will always have updated content in them. Thank you. ++++ |
@Aled, According to the pattern we have studied, telpages.com is NOT supposed to index any tel page without content. But we noticed today that it has indexed some pages (probably hundreds or thousands of them) that has no records of any type, not even a title. (i.e.http://p28.names.benson.tel). This is something we wanted to avoid. That is the very reason we gathered as much info as we could through this forum before we started designing our projects. Has the Algos of telpages.com changed suddenly? If so what could be the reason for this? In our post yesterday, we mentioned that telpages.com had done a perfect job. Yes, we said that because telpages.com had skipped those pages without any content and gone direct to the pages with content to index them as we expected. We would appreciate your comment on this please. Thanks. |
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I never heard that one in 3+ years. I thought TelPages was supposed to respect the Registrant and Index .TEL pages regardless of content. I hope my pages are not disrespected and disincluded due to other members' discontent. TelPages certainly needs a better display of pages in the results to show content, or lack thereof, but I don't think discrimination through indexing is the key. I know Facebook and Twitter don't disinclude, interesting to hear. :o[/size] |
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I do recall a discussion suggesting Telpages dump blank .tels from its results (to better the .tel experience/results) but was not aware it had been implemented. I am fairly certain (Aled could possibly confirm) that REDIRECTED top level .tels are NOT being displayed in search results, but even then, sub-domains of that same redirected .tel ARE still being indexed. (so, that's the only instance that I am aware of where Telpages completely suppresses a result) Can you please clarify what you were (hope to) trying to achieve?[/size] |
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Chatter yes, implementation, no, me too. Quote: [/size]
Better is always a matter of opinion, vacancy shows opportunity for buyers and advertisers to communicate and engage in commerce too. TelPages results display structure is the key, a preview of the content, or lack thereof, while still showing the registration and respect to those owners. This was discussed too - Has it been implemented, a better TelPages I mean ? :)[/size] |
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Thanks for your concern. Well, we do not want to achieve anything out of the way of telpages.com We studied telpages.com for many months and designed our project accordingly. According to what telpages.com have been doing, it should NOT index any page without content (i.e. pages with out any records). We want telpages.com to abide by that. But yesterday we noticed hundreds if not thousands of empty pages from our project have been indexed. That's NOT right. In other words, telpages.com SHOULD NOT index any empty pages like http://p28.names.benson.tel. ++++[/size] |
I agree that empty .tels should not be indexed in telpages, but it also makes me wonder why people are creating hundreds, if not thousands of empty sub-directories. |
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Haven't seen any empty .TEL pages yet myself, they all have something. Even your example http://p28.names.benson.tel/ has breadcrumbs to information, a search bar, title, color, logo, etc. Much more than Google.tel, and Google .tel has all it needs if that's what it wants, and indexed too. Since when is the value of a .TEL registration and indexing a matter of someone else's ratings ? Did we miss the elitist club memo ? Or is there a new order of content police we should watch out for ? ;)[/size] |
Point is simple, look at this: https://www.facebook.com/directory 1. People, Businesses, etc. register a page. 2. The page is indexed regardless of content value to "other page owners and operators". How does "content value" matter as a rule to registration and indexing ? It doesn't. If you're out to tell "Facebook" how to run their "Directory" for your own values - ouch. The real value is that only the Main Page and Registration is used find the Registrants. That's what a Registration and Registrant Directory is for first and foremost, a beginning of beginnings, without clutter, confusion, and "thousands" of RE-presentatives of the same information, authorized or unauthorized, or both. |
Sorry for the delay in responding, I'm looking into this. Thanks, Aled |
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Thanks for the comment. These pages are for crawlers to follow the path to a destination with content. You need to create path for indexing. We have done this in an unorthodox way, yet following the rules (algorithms) of telpages.com Telpages.com should not have indexed these empty pages in the first place. +++[/size] |
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Breadcrumbs to information, a search bar, title, color, logos do not qualify to get indexed by Telpages.com. This topic has been discussed before. The question here is why telpages.com indexed something which is not supposed to be indexed. Hopefully, Aled will have the answer sooner or later. ++++[/size] |
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Which makes perfect sense for Search Engines other than TelPages, because they are relevance driven content directories. TelPages is supposed to operate like the Facebook example, or Yellow Pages, etc., as a directory. TelPages proudly states the following to all visitors and users: "Find a business or individual with a .tel domain" Sadly this doesn't seem to be the primary mission, isn't attracting registrations, and it doesn't take a rocket scientist to understand why. Perhaps it should say this instead, if it's not designed to serve .tel registrants et. al.: "Find a business or individual listed on someone else's .tel domain" or maybe "Dig through the results to find businesses or individuals that have actually registered .tel domains" Funny how when you put a title that actually matches the results how much clearer the outside world view gets. Hmmm. :([/size] |
I can understand why Telcp needs to have an exact ruling on what is and what isn't indexed. Creating hidden sub directories at root is a powerful useage of .tels. http://taxinumbers.tel has been my most succesful formula yet. Works like a charm, with google indexing page 1 for "taxi numbers" after only about 2 weeks with over 75,000,000 results. now google reveals page 1 and page 2 results for almost any UK town with the words taxi numbers after them. Whereas Telpages search my tel opens the exact folder as it's result for a town search, (except in the case of Newport and a couple of others), leaving just a scroll down to a number and click to call. Good as any app. |
