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    Post by Telnic 2015-01-03, 4:17 am

    makemoneydave12-08-2009 01:18 PM




    French site news on .tel
     
    Sorry i'm new here, so dunno if this is okay. Been reading a bit about .tel and came across this site in french which had some news about tel stuff. I didnt see a English translation, so translated it using Google and then edited it a bit for clarity...

    Hope its okay to post this here!

    PS: Is .tel a French company?
    ---------------------------------------------

    Source: http://www.toutpointtel.fr/index.php...-domaines-tel/

    EXCLUSIVE: A new interface for. Tel

    A major criticism of the .tel domains is regarding the austere look often considered excessive, their "look and feel". And it must be said, in these Web 2.0 times, the appearance of a .tel domain is actually quite sober bordering on dry.

    Telnic the .tel registry is about to prove once again their ability to listen to the .tel community as it prepares to launch a new interface, completely redesigned for the .tel domains.

    I was indeed fortunate to have an interview with Khash Mahdavi, the P-D.G of Telnic on this topic and take a sneak preview of the new TelProxy (interface display of a .tel domain in a Web browser).

    (image)

    I am committed not to broadcast images of the new interface and you will forgive me so this paradox which is to lift a corner of the veil on a graphic design without the show (for now at least) ...

    However, trust me, the work done by the development team of Telnic is up to the expectations of the owners of .tel domains.

    Judge for yourself with this list (not exhaustive) of new features and improvements:

    - Completely redesigned interface with a "look & feel" perfectly up to date, with a new look, a new background, new icons (pictograms especially Twitter, Facebook, LinkedIn, etc.). ...

    - Ability to display directly on the .tel domain (above and left) an image (picture, avatar, logo, symbol, etc.).

    - Direct access to TelHosting (Control Panel area. Tel) from the .tel domain

    - TelPages Searchbox directly integrated into the .tel domain, enabling search, or only on the .tel domain, or in all areas of the .tel domain

    - Display Google Maps directly on the .tel domain

    - New .tel logo

    - ...

    Enticing, no? This new TelProxy should be operational during the month of January 2010. Until then, subscribe to RSS ToutPointTel or follow us on Twitter, the images should not delay ...

    mactel12-08-2009 04:05 PM




    .
    Hi Dave,
    Welcome here.
    Great contribution.
    Fantastic news.

    http://mobility.mobi/images/smilies/new/party.gif

    Triton NW12-08-2009 04:34 PM




    Can we expect an english version of the story? If this is all true, I am back in the "excited about .tel category"

    Lets keep our fingers crossed

    Bunjie12-08-2009 05:27 PM




    Hello Dave,

    *coughs* Don't feed our addiction, just kidding very nice news find, I'm a little concerned that it is exposed first in french as I don't know the take up of .tel but I will assume English language users took a deep investment.

    If they talked to Telnic there article should be listed? on the Telnic in the news page, though must say that french site is really beautifully designed.

    mactel12-08-2009 07:25 PM




    .
    Dave,
    If you would change the title of this thread to something like "New TelProxy comming very soon", this thread would have at least three times as many viewers/readers.

    Spread the word, as it is a real sensation.
    .
    .

    dialaroom12-08-2009 09:23 PM




    Anyone care to comment from telnic?

    Triton NW12-08-2009 10:50 PM




    Telnic?
    Confirm - Deny?

    dottel.net12-08-2009 11:08 PM




    would be suprised such game changing updates wouldnt be communicated via telnic... would be a sure way of getting people excited about tel again.

    Gav12-09-2009 12:15 AM




    It sounds great, would love to hear from one of the telnic staff, just to confirm this.

    I know in a recent thread Howard mentioned that there are updates being made, however did not mention exactly what they were.

    I would have thought howver if this was true telnic would have announced all this to get people more involved again and certainly to quieten all the doubters.

    Fingers crossed though, sounds exciting

    Gav

    mactel12-09-2009 07:23 AM




    .
    This is defenitly true.

    And here, it is no different than in the world of media, press and news papers: There are always the faster publishers, and the slower ones, to follow up.

    The website of François (ToutPointTel) is known, for that his news page about the dot tel domain is mostley the first source to find the newest information and updates about .tel.

    So, that is just how it is, and how it worked til now.

    Be happy and enjoy! And share the news.

    Again: The title of this thread is quasi a bit missleading, and should better be something like: "New TelProxy comming very soon".

    Cheers.
    .
    .

    dialaroom12-09-2009 10:47 AM




    Improvements sound great, but a confirmation from telnic would be good to help all .tel developers using images, screenshots and icons of old telproxy in advertising, business cards, flyers, web pages etc. from expending too much time and money trying to sell the old image if a new one is on the way in a month or so. The new features, of course, search, and google map on page especially, are very welcome additions, but change of Logo? A preview would be vey helpful, for planning of marketing etc.

    If it's only a month or so away, please Telnic, Tell us.

    Gav12-09-2009 01:16 PM




    I also agree with that.

    I have recently had another 5000 leaflets printed with the old logo on, is this chaging ?

    Regards

    Gav

    mactel12-09-2009 02:02 PM




    .
    Quote from François (FrenchTel):

    ".tel domains will soon have a brand new Web interface (TelProxy):

    - new "look & feel", new background, new icons, ...
    - ability to display a picture (photo, avatar, logo, etc.) on your .tel
    - a TelPages search box in every .tel domain (to search this .tel or all .tel)
    - direct secured access to TelHosting from every .tel domain
    - Google Maps directly displayed (a map, not a link) on .tel domains"

    Cheers
    .
    .

    Gav12-09-2009 02:24 PM




    Thanks mactel

    For that info.

    Regards

    Gav

    Triton NW12-09-2009 11:23 PM




    Crickets..............

    ArrisDottel12-10-2009 12:17 AM




    Yes its true I have seen many tweets on twitter confirming this

    Triton NW12-10-2009 01:21 AM




    Can you point us to the Twitter posts?

    mactel12-10-2009 02:05 AM




    .
    Voilà!:

    http://twitter.com/DotTelFinder
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    dottel.net12-10-2009 09:41 AM




    none of those tweets are from telnic mgmt - the only source i'd like to hear from to confirm whether this true or not.

    would be a little suprised if they allowed logos/images as henri has stated many times in various forums that's not the aim of dot tel (sorry don't have the links to the forum postings) plus would require additional storage somewhere for the images (in dns?? don't think it would be suitable).

    Gav12-10-2009 04:17 PM




    There seems to be lots of posts about all these new features ect but as you say nothing from telnic confirming these 100%.

    Nadya, Howard - Are these new features coming or is it all just speculations ?

    Be nice to know one way or another

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    Post by Telnic 2015-01-03, 4:17 am

    mactel12-10-2009 05:21 PM




    .
    Hi folks, you don't seem to get it, and many members are in a sleepy mood...: 

    Wake up, and listen: 
    It was François (ToutPointTel/FrenchTel), who had talks with the CEO of Telnic, and who probably had some influence in the design and realisation of the "new look and feel" of telproxy.

    Why should we not trust information from the maker of ToutPointTel?
    He is doing a fantastic job for the .tel community, and has the best designed .tel website, and is the most professional .tel specialist.

    It is a longer procedure, for Nadya or Howard to be able to confirm the info, because they must firt get the "ok" from the CEO.

    If François thinks it is ok to give some hints about what is comming next, he will do so, and has done.

    It is now the doubters, creating all the confusion. And it is becomming a lot more complicated, than neccessary.

    Take it for granted, and let it be. Thank you. Give us a break. We know it is true, and will take place, and be realised within very short time.

    Everybody wants 300% security in a very unsecure and uncertain time: Forget it. Dream on, because there is no such thing like 300% security, served on a silver dish. Take either 60% securtiy, or wait tree years, till the financial crisis is over, and be more passive than active, but which will not bring a faster change, and which would only be counter productive for any sort of progress and recovery of the economic downturn, which is going down, down, down, down, down. And regrettably, many people are just watching, with their hands in their pockets.
    .
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    Triton NW12-10-2009 05:24 PM




    Well at a minimum its exciting to log onto the forum now and see if Telnic has a response. Either they are staying quiet because they want to release the information properly or they are quiet becauce we are all jacked up and will be dissapointed if its not real.

    Keepin the faith

    ArrisDottel12-10-2009 06:36 PM




    Yes - Dottelfinder is one of the tweeters - the information they find has always been very accurate.

    Triton NW12-11-2009 06:14 PM




    My problem is that I have a presentation scheduled for the week after Christmas. I have a web presentation to a large group that will generate follow up presentations after that. If I demonstrate it to the group and the next time I show it, the look is totally different, I am going to look like an genius and .tel will look silly to them. If change is coming then I will push out my presentation. If no change is in the 60 day window then I will proceed.

    François12-11-2009 06:52 PM




    New TelProxy coming!
     
    Oh my, what a thread!

    And thank you so much for your kind words and appreciative comments! You are going to make me blush ...

    All I wrote about a new TelProxy in ToutPointTel and @ToutPointTel (my French-speaking blog and Twitter), and on DotTelFinder and@DotTelFinder (my English-speaking website and Twitter) is 100% true and Telnic should confirm it in January.
    Please be patient and understand that important development projects like this one are usually subject to delays and various issues.
    It is therefore understandable that the great guys from Telnic don't want to officially talk about it at this stage.

    But it is really awesome news for us .tel believers!

    On a different note, I take the opportunity of this post to inform you that KFA Technologies, my ".tel company", is working on a .tel domains management tool, a Web application called Tellipse :

    http://www.toutpointtel.fr/wp-conten...llipse-tpt.png
    We are currently performing in-depth internal testing and a public beta should be released in January/February.

    Would you like to be kept informed or have questions about Tellipse, please follow Tellipse on Twitter and tweet (and retweet of course) us!

    Enjoy your week-end. Warm regards,

    Gav12-11-2009 07:34 PM




    All sounds very exciting.

    Thanks for the confirmation Francois.

    Good luck with your project

    Regards

    Gav

    Triton NW12-11-2009 07:44 PM




    It just shows you how important this is to all that have invested in .tel

    dottel12-12-2009 10:12 PM




    The news is ofcourse sounds TRUE
    If it is not true, I am sure Telnic would have commented on this long time ago (with in first 3 post).

    Triton NW12-13-2009 01:18 AM




    I agree but the complete lack of response is, at a minimum...thought provoking. While this topic was gaining attention and everybody was looking for confirmation, our friends at Telnic we replying to other posts but not this one. Zero response tells you that there is a reason for their silence. I personally believe in these guys and think that the "quiet" only means incredible things. Or, I am a total genius, which is certainly possible.

    maximka12-13-2009 02:20 AM




    As for me, I am in general satisfied with the current set of functions in TEL-domains. If there will be more of them - well, it will be good; if the set will remain the same - it is also good.

    mactel12-13-2009 06:17 AM




    .
    It is mainly about a new look, and a search box in addition.
    There will not be many more functions, except some icons for access to Twitter, Facebook, LinkedIn.

    All this will make a significant change to the dot tel domain, and it will gain a lot more popularity. And only because it will look and be cool, and useful also for others than only insiders, it has a chance, to get acceptance by mainstream and average Joe.
    The dummy will be able to use the search box, and will be able to do all his tasks from the interface. Whereas before, if one had no knowledge about .tel search engines, one was quasi stuck, just with a nice business card and loads of contact information, and said: "Aha, .tel, and so what?. - What's the point? I don't get it, and can't google it either..."

    Now it will be no more up to us, who will be bringing .tel to success, but up to the gross of the users, who will either include .tel in their routines, habits, live stile, or dump it. The biggest examination is yet to come.
    And .tel will not fail, because it is simply too useful, and it simply fills a niche, and has the ability to constantly expand its capacity.
    .
    If we would try to draw a dependency pyramid, for who will make .tel viable, it might probably look like this:

    1.) mainstream users, "dummies", average Joe
    2.) brick and mortar shops 
    2.) media
    3.) registrars
    4.) registry
    5.) .tel pioneers, gurus, .tel community, developers, but especially webdesigners
    6.) ICANN?
    7.) tourisme, green movements, renewably energy industry, green residential/domestic energy efforts,
    electric car suppliers for domestic homes, demand for green collar jobs, etc.
    Small green business, and a few green washers, if you will...
    8.) registrants, paying renewal fees and populating their .tel domains, and building websites to complement with them, and to promote .tel (billboards, posters, tee-shirts, etc.).

    But keep in mind, that it was the registrants that brought .tel to the mainstream. And Telnic only did, what the registrants recommended to do.

    The registrants: That is me and you, and as we will see in January/February: We have done a fine job.
    .

    Howard12-15-2009 01:05 PM




    With regards to the comments made on this thread we can confirm:

    1) Kash indeed did have a casual conversation with Francois 
    2) He did confirm that developments were in progress and were accurately reported in ToutPointTel
    3) We’re not at a stage where we will confirm what exactly those features are, or when they will be released, but that, rest assured, much of what is being considered is directly as a result of the wide community and more specifically some comments from the participants in this forum
    4) More information will be forthcoming at the beginning of next year

    mactel12-15-2009 03:06 PM




    .
    This is another reason, why Internet and mobile phone users should get a dot tel domain:
    Because, as a member of the .tel community they can take influence in the design and technology of their .tel domain., and the .tel domain in general.

    And this fact, is probably the easiest thing about .tel, you can explain to anyone, and they will understand that.

    You can show them, where we were at launch-time, and where we will be a few months, and you can tell them, how we managed to do that „miracle“. 
    No other registry will do so much for its registrants. 
    It is like working in a company, where there is no hirarchy, and all are equal, and any employer can go to the director, and give him some advice and some ideas. 

    But exactly this is what makes a company to be successful. Telnic is productive, and is not hindering its success. It is a role model registry, and other registries could learn from it.
    Perhaps, this is also, what might shake up the Internet world and its domainers. There is a great and highly productive spirit here. just wait till people see and realize that: It will be another reason to talk about .tel.
    It is not only about, what you achieve, but also, how you achieve it.
    Not all companies or registries can work as efficent as Telnic. However, Telnic can, respectively, knows how to be efficient and successful. You got to hand it to them. 
    Its them, me and you: We all did a great job, up and till now, and can be proud.
    When the media gets all this, they will start reporting again, about .tel.
    .
    .

    dialaroom12-15-2009 03:44 PM




    Great post mactel.
    Thanks Howard, for commenting.
    We will all look forward to the New Year, when I'm sure you will promote the changes and additions. In the mean time, if we all add it to our blogs, link where we can from our web based sites, tweet, twitter and shout about .tel and its roadmap (I've got my daughter who is an animator, making a you tube style video animation for my site) for the new year. I'm sure we can do our little bit to help with awareness. Keep up the good work Howard.

    AJV USA12-15-2009 05:35 PM




    I heard version 2 of the telproxy is supposed to be out in march or april from a fairly reliable source ...

    Triton NW12-15-2009 06:09 PM




    If that is the timing, then we will certainly test the nerve of a lot of people on this board. Most will need to make a big renewal decision at the end of March. I already decided to renew 100% of my 27.

    telrific12-15-2009 06:24 PM




    Quote:



    Originally Posted by Triton NW (Post 3401)
    If that is the timing, then we will certainly test the nerve of a lot of people on this board. Most will need to make a big renewal decision at the end of March. I already decided to renew 100% of my 27.


    [size]
    I own hundreds, but my decision will not be based upon Telproxy 2.0, it will be based upon Telpages.com 1.0

    250,000 "Grains of Sand" scattered all over the Earth is getting old, FAST !

    When we bought these "Grains of Sand" it was under the premise of a Globally Advertised BEACH called Telpages.com !

    THAT HAS NEVER HAPPENED and we're just trying to paint the grains of sand as if that is going to make some difference !

    When domains like .com, .net, .org were sold prior to Search Engines ... Didn't work.

    When the BEACH (Search Engines) came out people scrambled to get some grains of sand and populated them with websites of many, many styles.

    This entire .TEL sales effort was "Grains of Sand" in a "Global Beach" ... ONLY NO BEACH YET !

    My decision to renew will be based SOLELY on the VALUE of the Telpages Beach !

    PATIENTLY WAITING for over a YEAR ... 

    ;)[/size]

    spline12-16-2009 12:19 AM




    If they are working on it and expect it to be ready by januari I expect it to be ready not earlier than in march.

    So if I were about to have a meeting about .tel I would go ahead and have the meeting and also reveal the rumor of comming news about .tel.

    Infact I think it would make you look even better if you know these unofficial things before they are official.

    There is a risc that you will look bad if it does not happen but you can say that its supposed to happen in the comming month.

    Things takes much more time than people comprehend. Creating a good searchengine is not a small undertaking. 

    Its has to be quick which means a lot of computer power and create good search results.

    However it does not have to be perfect even google constantly changes and improves their search engine.

    Though I´m 99% certain that with the changes they make they have a winner.

    For many people and small business it just beats having a .com.

    Gav12-16-2009 08:29 AM




    I am really excited about all the changes that are going to be made.

    I also think telnic are being quite crafty in regards leaking the information now, and the updates not being made untill probably March I would guess.

    Sureley we will all want to renew our .tel domains with these new features on the horizon :rolleyes:

    Gav

    tel4rent12-16-2009 12:27 PM




    The new features mentioned below would be great. But i still believe that building our domain name with relevant information will only help the domain name to be recognized in the market. What comes later is ice on the cake.

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    French site news on .tel Empty Re: French site news on .tel

    Post by Telnic 2015-01-03, 4:17 am

    Shahid12-16-2009 02:28 PM




    Quote:



    Originally Posted by tel4rent (Post 3415)
    But i still believe that building our domain name with relevant information will only help the domain name to be recognized in the market. What comes later is ice on the cake


    [size]
    Agree with you there, many people are just waiting for the new telproxy to come out so their investment can shoot up and reach new heights but what we have to look at is a balance .tel
    even if the prices don't climb up like one would think 

    if your .tel has the following qualities you surely should have no problem in making a decent sale of the domain or listings in it.

    1) Looks Neat and Clean, Easy to Navigate, Have enough information for the user to opt for coming again or sharing it with ( Friends/Family/Co-workers ECT )
    2) Good on search engines and gets fair amount of natural traffic ( when you populate them with various keywords )

    Shahid[/size]

    telrific12-16-2009 03:29 PM




    And STILL even with Telproxy 2.0, those pretty "grains of sand" have only 1% value if there's no "beach" !

    How many BILLIONS of websites have NO patrons because they can't be found ? Billions.

    AH, there's the whole key, no matter what value it has, it has NO value if it can't be found.

    When you advertise BOTH a "grain of sand" and a "beach" where it can be found easily, well, it doesn't take a genius to figure out that .TEL has as much value as any one of a BILLION other web efforts without TELPAGES 1.0 !


    nadya12-16-2009 03:41 PM




    Telfiric, just a note - in no way I'm trying to undermine your assumptions and the value you attribute to TelPages - but .tel pages are discoverable today just like any other online resource via search engines. In fact, some .tel resources successfully compete and win over traditional websites. 

    Admittedly, search engines can be slow and unable to benefit from the DNS-based technology or the mobile aspect, but we see the development, the gradual shift as more .tel names appear at the top of search results for relevant search queries. 

    On a different note, whatever TelPages offers, even it's the ultimate global directory with a state-of-the-art search facility (a quality level you hardly ever reach in version 1 of anything ever) - people will continue use Google and other search engines of their choice on a daily basis. I don't want this to turn into a major discussion about TelPages again, there are dedicated threads for that, my suggestion is simply not to paint a black-and-white picture of everything or nothing, now or never

    Triton NW12-16-2009 05:53 PM




    Hello Nadya
    In all fairness to Telrific and the others on the board. The passion and frustration stems from the fact that we all believe in the technology and how we will benefit. We are anxious to prove to our peers that we reaped massive rewards by being early in the game. I know that when the new look rolls out in Q1 and the Telpages is released, I am going to have many people in my industry scratching their heads and saying "why didn't I think of that"

    Mark Kolb (Kprobe)12-16-2009 06:00 PM




    Quote:



    Originally Posted by Triton NW (Post 3422)
    Hello Nadya
    In all fairness to Telrific and the others on the board. The passion and frustration stems from the fact that we all believe in the technology and how we will benefit. We are anxious to prove to our peers that we reaped massive rewards by being early in the game. I know that when the new look rolls out in Q1 and the Telpages is released, I am going to have many people in my industry scratching their heads and saying "why didn't I think of that"



    [size]
    As Nadya pointed out, TelPages will just be an option to use. People will still continue to use Google etc. However, if TelPages is designed to be the repository of everything .tel and search engines learn to index TelPages then that will be a triumph. Of course, we'd prefer Google et al to use the DNS.[/size]

    telrific12-16-2009 06:07 PM




    Quote:



    Originally Posted by nadya (Post 3421)
    In fact, some .tel resources successfully compete and win over traditional websites.


    [size]
    Absolutely, I'm not at all discounting the value that .TEL gives as SEO in Google, etc.
    It has been established that .TEL can do that, and then it has also been established that Google can make it disappear quickly too.
    Why try to "trick" Google though ? Why not just be a better Search Engine ? Bing is already taking market share, hmmm.

    Quote:
    [/size]



    On a different note, whatever TelPages offers, even it's the ultimate global directory with a state-of-the-art search facility (a quality level you hardly ever reach in version 1 of anything ever) - people will continue use Google and other search engines of their choice on a daily basis.


    [size]
    1. TelPages will take time to be the best (in it's class - it stands alone here), but it doesn't seem Telnic's goal.
    2. People will continue to use their choice ... and migrate to what's best as their choice.

    Google proved that after Yahoo! proved that after HotBot proved that over AltaVista proved that over Infoseek ... I've seen the leap-frog effect for over 15 years.

    The FACT that a .TLD exclusive search engine exists is a PHENOMENAL first, and a MAJOR factor for .TEL owners, why downplay it ?!?

    Quote:
    [/size]



    I don't want this to turn into a major discussion about TelPages again, there are dedicated threads for that, my suggestion is simply not to paint a black-and-white picture of everything or nothing, now or never


    [size]
    As Telnic tells everyone of its supporters, focus on making the best of what you can control ... Telnic should focus on this as well with TelPages is my only point.

    When one controls the ability to make a positive change one should focus on that rather than trying to second guess others.

    TelPages is not something to second guess, it is simply a matter of black and white that:

    .tel pages and TelPages were advertised as such, black and white.
    Telnic has the ability to focus on this, black and white.

    As for a major discussion, no I'm not interested in a TelPages discussion, this is simply a discussion of Telproxy 2.0 value vs. TelPages 1.0 value.

    There can't be a major discussion on TelPages 1.0 ... it doesn't exist yet to discuss in a major way anyway ...[/size]

    mactel12-16-2009 06:21 PM




    .
    We probably shouldn't quasi attack Telnic, in the way its starting to happen.
    Telnic has the most difficult situation and status within all registries.
    When other registries only have to provide a domain name extension, Telnic is under constant pressure as a result of people's expectations, and under constant pressure to succeed.

    The extension „.tel“ couldn't only have been provided, only as „extension only“, like all the other regristries offer. People would of had even more difficulty to figure out, for what the extension „.tel“ stand for. Because there already is a so called dot mobi, the extension „.tel“ can only be explained together with its online business card, the „telproxy“ interface. And so, that interface gives the extension its identity. However, the identity that .tel was born with, was not meant to stay neccessarily that way. The dot tel domain was meant to grow with its community.
    Dot tel, is a quasi open source production within its community.
    Yes, we sometimes get the impression, that Telnic is struggling, or can't quite figure out, which strategy to follow, within reasonable time. 
    I think the biggest problem, is our economic system, that sets us under constant pressure to make money. 
    If Telnic would remit the first renewal fees, for those dot tel domains which had been registered this year, that would probably just be the right and perfect thing to do. And registrants would not have to worrie, and probably Telnic neither. The companies that are backening Telnic financially, could come up for those expenses.
    What we really have to reduce, is pressure, and by solving the money issue, we can do that.
    Yes, I do think it would be a good idea to remit the first renewal fees.

    Thanky you so much, for your understanding.
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    telrific12-16-2009 06:37 PM




    It's not an attack to hold someone to their word.

    It should also not be necessary to ask them why it's not being fulfilled.

    I did ask, and Telnic assured me that it is being filled.

    I was glad to hear it.

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    The question was basically:

    If you've advertised .tel, telproxy, and telpages - and you see telproxy 1.0 RIGHT AWAY and a YEAR LATER talk and interviews of telproxy 2.0 - YET TELPAGES 1.0 HAS NEVER EXISTED - why is this ? This is not good.


    mactel12-16-2009 06:48 PM




    I agree and understand.
    There are still a few days left to present TelPages, just in time.
    As TelPages was scheduled for December.
    But anyway: It can happen, that schedules can't be kept precicely...
    Still good enough, if TelPages is available in January, I think.
    TelPages is only a search engine, and will probably be not much better, that the ones that already exist.
    Again: I think that this would solve many problems, hard feelings, and frustrations:
    Yes, I do think it would be a good idea to remit the first renewal fees.
    And yes, I think, we can.
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    telrific12-16-2009 07:39 PM




    It's all good, I'm sure it will all happen in time.

    It's just that the TelPages factor has been non-existent and is worth MUCH, MUCH more to the entire .tel effort than anyone is giving it credit for, including Telnic.

    "This service coming soon ... " for over a year is an insult to anyone who understands this.

    Launching the "Beach", and promoting the "Beach", even TelPages 1.0, will help gain the support of many, many, many more people for .tel "Sand".

    It will grow because it has so much going for it as the "First Beach Of It's Kind", and because people will then know its value as a directory.

    Telproxy 2.0 will only solidify .tel value, it too is very important of course.

    If everything goes according to plan, 2010 will be a MAJOR year for Telnic and its supporters, old and new.

    Telnic understands the critical timing of launches, that is apparent, but when you hear rumors over announcements, or the announcements are intent over reality, well, the natives get restless for a reason.

    Telnic should put more re-assurances and hints on its Website, not just in secret interviews.


    mactel12-16-2009 08:28 PM




    If you are talking so much about TelPages, you are only making it to be a myth. But myths only exist of things that are not real, or not real anymore.

    We have never seen TelPages, nor had we had a chance to play with it. Maybe it is not much worth. Maybe it will be ice cream. Junk. Rubbish.

    Why talk about something, as if it was the greatest thing in the world, when it hasn't yet left the production line? 

    So, come down to earth, again about your TelPages dreams. 
    TelPages obiously needs time to develope..., which is probably a good sign, Letting us assume, that TelPages is all about quality. 

    But just stop the.... whatever. Either it will be ice cream or gold, we will see.
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    ArrisDottel12-16-2009 10:18 PM




    We all want TelPages - it will almost certainly bring benefits to tel owners and the general public alike. 

    Dont forget though - there has to be worthwhile content within .tel domains to add value to TelPages. 

    Can anybody say that they have maximised content within each of their .tel domains? The more content available, the better telpages will seem. 

    Official announcements are usually way behind people in the know - By the time an official announcement comes everybody knows what the announcement will be. If Francois knows Kash he is in the know, and I for one am thankful he chooses to spread the word. I am sure there will be an official announcement to confirm or deny telproxy 2.0 when the timing is correct. Although there are no confirmations, there are no denials either.

    Triton NW12-16-2009 10:45 PM




    Arris
    This was confirmed by Howard on page 2 of this thread

    ArrisDottel12-16-2009 11:14 PM




    Apologies - Yes that is correct

    mactel12-16-2009 11:23 PM




    ...............[size=32]Bingo!
     :D

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    telrific12-17-2009 05:00 AM




    Quote:



    Originally Posted by ArrisDottel (Post 3436)
    Dont forget though - there has to be worthwhile content within .tel domains to add value to TelPages.


    [size]
    There's always worthwhile content in a .tel page, contact information for the Individual or Business that you're looking for.

    Even if it's only a telephone number, that's worthwhile !

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    telrific12-17-2009 05:00 AM




    Quote:



    Originally Posted by mactel (Post 3433)
    But just stop the.... whatever. Either it will be ice cream or gold, we will see.


    [size]
    Have seen it. It's Gold because it's .tel only. Platinum will come after a while !

    Myth or ice cream has nothing to do with it ... 

    ;)[/size]

    mactel12-17-2009 05:25 AM




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    Ok.

    Keep the good spirit. 

    Economic downturn is tarting to trouble me..., however, I have a bunch of dot tel domains, that are my live blood, now.
    No money, but at least .tel's.
    I don't really like money: It solves some problems, but causes some other problems. So the world would actually be better off, without money. 
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    dottel.net12-17-2009 02:37 PM




    given a choice - i think a search box on the tel page itself which allows searching across subdomains under the tel would be more useful initially. telpages itself will struggle to gain traction without pr, etc. This all takes time and money.

    ...many folks today still haven't heard of tel let alone a tel only search engine. Having existing content rich tel's indexed by leading search engines and returned in the top results will bring about more awarness over time.

    mactel12-17-2009 03:22 PM




    A search box on the tel page itself, will be real, about in April 2010.
    It is quasi on the road map, if you will (not mentioned, I think).
    And it had been confirmed by ToutPointTel and Telnic. 
    The search box will not only allow searching across subdomains under the .tel, but also under all tels:
    Quote François: "a TelPages search box in every .tel domain (to search this .tel or all .tel)".
    The populated tel's are indexed quite well, by leading search engines, which is probably mainly to smart use of key words, and the way the header titel is written. 
    Again: The TelPages search box, on the tel page itself, is not very far from beeing real and usable. So: Your .tel dreams will soon come true. Cheers.

    Edit:
    The TelPages search box, on the tel page, could look similar to this?:
    http://www.msearchgroove.com/wp-cont...7-16_01_32.png
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    Originally Posted by dottel.net (Post 3457)
    given a choice - i think a search box on the tel page itself which allows searching across subdomains under the tel would be more useful initially. telpages itself will struggle to gain traction without pr, etc. This all takes time and money.

    ...many folks today still haven't heard of tel let alone a tel only search engine. Having existing content rich tel's indexed by leading search engines and returned in the top results will bring about more awarness over time.



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    No one heard of MySpace, Facebook, Linked in, or Twitter because of major promotion or a "full book" either ... yet, that didn't stop anything from succeeding ... and NONE took Google to do it either !

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    dottel.net12-18-2009 02:00 PM




    good positive thinking - i'll drink to that!

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