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Another: www.Telnic.biz
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Sorry to the website owner. I didn't want that you delete your website as you just did. I was asking a question and I don't know if there is any legal problem. I'm only interested in the legal background, because I don't know about it.ixida wrote:Does this domain have a legal problem? http://www.telnames.co
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I don't see a problem, because there is no trademark registered for telnames!
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Telnic is a trademark!Spocky wrote:Another: www.Telnic.biz
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YES THERE IS !Expert wrote:I don't see a problem, because there is no trademark registered for telnames!
Click http://www.ipo.gov.uk/tm/t-find/t-find-text - enter telnames under the "Trade Mark Text" heading, scroll to the bottom and press the Search button.
You will see 5 text trademarks in "Registered" status (the first being on 12 July 2000) and one graphic trademark in "Examined" status.
So cybersquat in the UK on Telnames extensions at your financial peril !
http://MikeSeaton.tel
PS. I actually advised Telnic over a year ago on their forum to register http://www.Telnames.co whilst it was still available to protect their interests, but my advice was ignored !
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Is this only for the UK? Can "Telnames" be used by others outside the UK?mikeseaton wrote:Click http://www.ipo.gov.uk/tm/t-find/t-find-text - enter telnames under the "Trade Mark Text" heading, scroll to the bottom and press the Search button.
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Trademarks usually relate to country, though I believe they can also relate to "regions".ixida wrote:Is this only for the UK? Can "Telnames" be used by others outside the UK?mikeseaton wrote:Click http://www.ipo.gov.uk/tm/t-find/t-find-text - enter telnames under the "Trade Mark Text" heading, scroll to the bottom and press the Search button.
So to check out other countries/regions you need to find the equivalent search facility.
Here's a site I use for checking out USA trademarks - http://tess2.uspto.gov/bin/gate.exe?f=tess&state=4010:3khlk.1.1
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Today somebody registered .info also. I think that there is no sence for Telnic to fight for a word telnames in all extentions. Especially, when 1000 new gTDL will come soon. No sence of spending yearly ten of thousands for keeping all these extentions. I think that only.COM, .NET, ORG counts, and all the rest are not worth of Telnic's attention.
Domain Name:TELNAMES.INFO
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Thank you! Then it doesn't look good for Telnames.com. I can find only "Telname", but not "Telnames".mikeseaton wrote:Here's a site I use for checking out USA trademarks - http://tess2.uspto.gov/bin/gate.exe?f=tess&state=4010:3khlk.1.1
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But other extensions could be good for other people who want to sell or trade .tel domains. Would that be a problem?maxi wrote:I think that only.COM, .NET, ORG counts, and all the rest are not worth of Telnic's attention.
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Thx to Mike; I missed the British trademark before.ixida wrote:But other extensions could be good for other people who want to sell or trade .tel domains. Would that be a problem?maxi wrote:I think that only.COM, .NET, ORG counts, and all the rest are not worth of Telnic's attention.
In my understanding you can operate with the name telnames outside the UK.
But you should pay attention that you don't get involved in a conflict by selling a different competitive product on telnames.co that pretends to be produced by Telnames.com.
In that case you would unlawfully take advantage of the brand belonging to them.
Any other opinions?
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But can I sell .tel domains with it?Expert wrote:But you should pay attention that you don't get involved in a conflict by selling a different competitive product on telnames.co that pretends to be produced by Telnames.com.
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Not in the UK, because of the registered trademark.ixida wrote:But can I sell .tel domains with it?
In the rest of the world they have no legal means against you.
On these grounds you should avoid selling .tel domains in £ to avoid conflicts in their area.
However Telnames could try to take the domain away from you, but it won’t be easy for them to succeed.
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The board for a potential WIPO case could decide differently, but if Telnames should file an UDRP they would agree to court jurisdiction in the location of the domain registrar. If the domain registrar is located outside the UK, it will be very difficult for them to win the dispute since Telnames has no trademark there. Such a dispute could be even expensive for Telnames, because they could be ordered to pay high figure damages in case they lose the dispute.Expert wrote:However Telnames could try to take the domain away from you, but it won’t be easy for them to succeed.
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This is not only a legal question.Expert wrote:Not in the UK, because of the registered trademark.ixida wrote:But can I sell .tel domains with it?
In the rest of the world they have no legal means against you.
Telnames should be happy if somebody tries to promote their product. Probably they will tolerate it, because you would work in their interest.
And think about the damage of their public image if they start fighting against their supporters.
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http://www.telnames.co
Domain available in: 5 days
This domain is in pending delete status and will be dropped from the Registry on Jul 06, 2013.
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Don't even think about cybersquatting on this domain name !ixida wrote: http://www.telnames.co
Domain available in: 5 days
This domain is in pending delete status and will be dropped from the Registry on Jul 06, 2013.
Telnames is a registered trademark - at least in the UK and USA - I haven't checked other countries.
You will simply be wasting your money and if you attempt to use it leave yourself open to legal action with its associated costs !
http://MikeSeaton.tel
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You wrong too, you can register any domain even if they have trademark, you can use it as longer you do not use it for trading, for profit, bad faith, no money at all like to sell them, you only can do 1 thing: what? make a website to make you own opinion about that company.mikeseaton wrote:Don't even think about cybersquatting on this domain name !ixida wrote: http://www.telnames.co
Domain available in: 5 days
This domain is in pending delete status and will be dropped from the Registry on Jul 06, 2013.
Telnames is a registered trademark - at least in the UK and USA - I haven't checked other countries.
You will simply be wasting your money and if you attempt to use it leave yourself open to legal action with its associated costs !
http://MikeSeaton.tel
And you can use telnames as longer you do not use it for sell domains, or things relate to their business, in other words you can use telnames to do any business and inclusive you can register trademark too , and again as longer that trademark is not relate to telnames business.
Just few company with big pocket registering their business for trademark in all kind all business, I believe there are 48 classifications.
I know a big bank in Spain that their business is in banking, insurance, pensions, and they have trademark for all the classifications, you can not even open a restaurant with their business name.
But if telnames does not have trademark for restaurant classification you can buy telnames.co and register trademark for the restaurant classification.
Even wrong if telnames.com is trading without trademak I can register telnames.co then I could register trademak for domains classification, and then I can call them and ask to shut their business because they are using my name.
But, of course I love telnic and telnames and I am not going to do something like that, I wish them all the best.
I strong believe telnames should use telnames.co instead of telnames.com, .co is fashion, is cool, short and beautiful and much more, all new company should use .co and .tel rather than just .com, so I suggest to telforum that use telarea.co instead of .com
telnames.com and telarea.com should be redirect or forwards to telnames.co and telarea.co
Regards
www.4g.tel
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