IMPORTANT NEWS FOR ALL .TEL OWNERS AND COMMUNITY MEMBERS

4444 wrote:

maxi wrote:If we allow that they will want to sell domains of their extensions, then they will make preferences only for extensions which they possess, and not for all existingr new gTDLs. So in any case TEL will be not in their interest.

Exactly!
.tel doesn't have the slightest chance against this competition, unless Google buys Telnic.

If they indeed will give prefences to their extension (.APP for example), then logically they also (fighting with competition) can discriminate other new gTLD even more than they deserve. So, chances of new gTLD are even lesser than it seemed to me.

MWX wrote:The domain extension is part of that domain name.

@MWX, you have managed to express the idea in few words. Brevity is the soul of wit. : )

maxi wrote:I know that Google sells domains. I meant here selling domains from the extension which belongs to them. Because if they will give preferences to sites on such domains then they will lost part of their reliability.

I do not know the exact Eglish expression for such situation when somebody abused his official position to get bonuses for himself. But in my eyes for sure such person becomes not reliable.

That is a thing Google is doing on a regular basis:

Google's comparison shopping and advertising-related practices breach EU rules

maxi wrote:If they indeed will give prefences to their extension (.APP for example), then logically they also (fighting with competition) can discriminate other new gTLD even more than they deserve. So, chances of new gTLD are even lesser than it seemed to me.

It depends on the TLD: some will be promoted more than average while others will be punished by big and relevant players.

We call it free market economy: the big ones eat the small ones.

4444 wrote:That is a thing Google is doing on a regular basis:

Google's comparison shopping and advertising-related practices breach EU rules

If they already  do this on a regular basis in other things, then my suspicion that Google will discriminate most of new gTDLs harshly, becomes a certainty. : )

For TEL (in the form of a primitive Telnames visit card or as sites on regular hosting) this promises nothing good.

4444 wrote:We call it free market economy: the big ones eat the small ones.

It seems that we will see in future Extension Wars. They will fight for the food (i.e. customers who buy domains), and some of them will starve, and not everyone from them will survive.

Customers who will buy domains in the extensions which will "starve", will lose these their investments too. Perhaps, it could be called also "Darwinism".

If Mr. Kash has a dream - after he will expel from the extension all his current customers - to sell TEL extension for somebody for big  $$$, then in such circumstances this his dream with each passing day has lesser and lesser chances to fulfil. ; )

maxi wrote:If they already  do this on a regular basis in other things, then my suspicion that Google will discriminate most of new gTDLs harshly, becomes a certainty. : )

I believe Google won't make it that obvious.

Google is interested in a general success of the new TLDs (because of their heavy investment).
If Google favors only new TLDs in possession of Google, Google would endager the general success of all new TLDs (including the TLDs from Google).

maxi wrote:If Mr. Kash has a dream - after he will expel from the extension all his current customers - to sell TEL extension for somebody for big  $$$, then in such circumstances this his dream with each passing day has lesser and lesser chances to fulfil. ; )

Yes, .tel is standing close to the abyss.

4444 wrote:Yes, .tel is standing close to the abyss.

That's probably the reason for the announced changes.

Telnic doesn't have to lose so much with it!

someone has faith
www.sexygirls.tel

Ann Mike Matthews wrote:someone has faith
www.sexygirls.tel

http://themes.tel/ & http://telwp.com/import-dottel/

WP = Wordpress

Ann Mike Matthews wrote:someone has faith
www.sexygirls.tel

This is not faith, but inexperience. It's not possible to sell domains like this.

Apart from that, it's impossible to sell .tel domains at all. There is no market for .tel domains.

whatthetel wrote:http://telwp.com/import-dottel/

This could be a useful tool for .tel directory owners to transfer their data next month.

maxi wrote:I have portretas_tel. It is not a directory because it uses only few pages. But now I will be not able to save it and to use it as it is now.

Also I do not want to have it at a normal (regular) hosting because I think that all TELs on regular hosting Google will consider to be sites in a "sh*t extension" and will value them very low.

Maxi,

Your domain name is so unique you might want to consider registering something other than .tel for a replacement non-tel site.  Portretas.net is available as are Portretas.gallery, Portretas.studio, Portretas.co, etc, etc.  You can check all the available new domain extensions easily in one place: Here's the link for your .net version: https://iwantmyname.com/search?domain=portretas.net. You can do better on price than what this site offers, however.

I'd renew portretas_tel for 1 more year (before Telnic jacks up the price) and forward the traffic to your new website.  That way you don't lose visitors that have your current .tel bookmarked.

All major domain registrars have simple website builders and good phone support so the multiple pages you need shouldn't be a problem.

Dan

Here's a link to a WordPress theme that might be of interest to all the .tel directory owners who, like me, have been cut loose by Telnic. 

https://templatic.com/app-themes/directory-theme#templatic-pricing-plans

This theme is light years ahead of what we could do on .tel and there's even the good chance that our data from the .tel directories can be imported.  The backup of our sites is in XML format and this theme can import CSV format.  There are lots of free online XML to CSV converters out there.

I haven't purchased the theme myself yet and so I don't have any first-hand knowledge to draw on.  All I know is that this looks VERY promising for those wanting to continue their directories.  There's also a new .directory domain extension available if you want to acquire a domain name more specific to your site.

Nice link Dan. 
I think it's got just about everything. The sorting alphabetically and by star rating just simple things but powerful.

The map function looks amazing.
Just all round looked so simplistic, very well thought out.

A directory builders dream system/tool.
This is the future. 
1. Register a dot.directory
2. Combine with this directory system.

That's what registrars of dot.specifics are surely planning.
A perfect match.

Now, how EASILY to get my boracay.tel data out of Telnic's system????

Boracay wrote:Now, how EASILY to get my boracay.tel data out of Telnic's system????

Please login at your Telhosting control panel.
Under the settings (menu on top) you will find the option to backup your data.
After that, you will find some interesting tools to upload your data here:
http://www.tel.community/t4484-telmasters-will-support-data-transfer-of-old-tel-domains
and
http://www.tel.community/t4467p150-important-news-for-all-tel-owners-and-community-members#16424

DirectoryDan wrote:Maxi,
Your domain name is so unique you might want to consider registering something other than .tel for a replacement non-tel site.  Portretas.net is available as are Portretas.gallery, Portretas.studio, Portretas.co, etc, etc. 

DirectoryDan, I do not believe in new gTLDs. : )

I think that they are "one-time businesses" and nothing more than a way to make quick money for their founders. After they will collect money from registrations of sunrise and landrash domains, then the aim of their business is already fulfiled. If they will manage collect further - the better. If not - they already have got their profit.

Besides, I have COM site on a domain which means "Artist" in Lithuanian. Word "Artist" is better because it already includes word "Portrait".That my TEL site was an addition to COM. I used it in Internet as a kind of an ad for that my COM. It fitted for that purpose, but I am afraid that after Mach it will fit not.

DirectoryDan wrote:
I'd renew portretas_tel for 1 more year (before Telnic jacks up the price) and forward the traffic to your new website.  That way you don't lose visitors that have your current .tel bookmarked.

DirectoryDan, thanks for your advice! I will think about that.

But surely I will not want to keep something useless that has any potential to attract customers and looks like this: kash.tel
: )

Boracay wrote:1. Register a dot.directory
2. Combine with this directory system.

But what will be the aim of doing directories now?

With TEL to make directory it was a fun. Now it will be a job - hard, boring, with dubious perspectives of getting profit and with sure existence of strong competition who had began earlier and already have got that market?

maxi wrote:DirectoryDan, I do not believe in new gTLDs. : )

I think that they are "one-time businesses" and nothing more than a way to make quick money for their founders. After they will collect money from registrations of sunrise and landrash domains, then the aim of their business is already fulfiled. If they will manage collect further - the better. If not - they already have got their profit.

New gTLD are taking off at this very moment, because they bring strong meaning to the name of a website.

Of course, many new gTLD will fail, because not all are useable for many websites. The question is how much value a specific name has.
Only few new gTLD will excel, but in general they will become very important.

Even this forum is running on a new gTLD now.

maxi wrote:DirectoryDan, I do not believe in new gTLDs. : )

I think that they are "one-time businesses" and nothing more than a way to make quick money for their founders. After they will collect money from registrations of sunrise and landrash domains, then the aim of their business is already fulfiled. If they will manage collect further - the better. If not - they already have got their profit.

Besides, I have COM site on a domain which means "Artist" in Lithuanian. Word "Artist" is better because it already includes word "Portrait".That my TEL site was an addition to COM. I used it in Internet as a kind of an ad for that my COM. It fitted for that purpose, but I am afraid that after Mach it will fit not.

Wasn't aware that you already had alternatives.  Glad you do!  I'm not the world's biggest fan of the new gTLDs either.  A lot of them seem fairly useless except for a handful of applications.  One thing for sure though... just about all of them beat .tel when you consider .tel's poor track record and their failure to gain any recognition after 8 years.  I can't understand why someone would choose .tel over a well-matched gTLD.

The public will get used to seeing something other than .com, .net, and .org on the end of a domain name even if they don't recognize the particular gTLD. We all bought into that concept when we registered our first .tel domain.  If a domain and the gTLD match the website perfectly like Boracay.Directory does I'd be a buyer!

DirectoryDan wrote: One thing for sure though... just about all of them beat .tel when you consider .tel's poor track record and their failure to gain any recognition after 8 years.  I can't understand why someone would choose .tel over a well-matched gTLD.

Yes, that is the essence of situation with TEL. Even the new gTDL can beat it now.

maxi wrote:

DirectoryDan wrote: One thing for sure though... just about all of them beat .tel when you consider .tel's poor track record and their failure to gain any recognition after 8 years.  I can't understand why someone would choose .tel over a well-matched gTLD.

Yes, that is the essence of situation with TEL. Even the new gTDL can beat it now.

Even the forum administration is preferring a new gTLD instead of waiting for March when a forum would be possible to built with a .tel.

MWX wrote:

maxi wrote:

DirectoryDan wrote: One thing for sure though... just about all of them beat .tel when you consider .tel's poor track record and their failure to gain any recognition after 8 years.  I can't understand why someone would choose .tel over a well-matched gTLD.

Yes, that is the essence of situation with TEL. Even the new gTDL can beat it now.

Even the forum administration is preferring a new gTLD instead of waiting for March when a forum would be possible to built with a .tel.

That's the point!
Choosing a domain name is all about the meaning of words.
.tel doesn't have this power (like the new domains).

.tel has another strength: the DNS data storage.
And this concept hasn't attracted many people.
But it's getting worse: in March this concept will be disestablished!

maxi wrote:

Boracay wrote:1. Register a dot.directory
2. Combine with this directory system.

But what will be the aim of doing directories now?

The aim for us was always to control content, for other initiatives.
And the other initiatives to have an attached helpful resource directory 

Anyway...
The new extensions should tie up with appropriate services.
1. Dot.webcam
2. Combine with a fully automated online controllable webcam. There should be a webcam service/system that's Upsold with a dot.webcam

New extensions to match appropriate existing systems.
.tel will ultimately be used for telephone services