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The Reality of .Tel I have started this thread in the "General" section of the forum so it is only read by signed-up forum members and not by non-registered casual visitors. Quote:
See also my post http://telnic.org/forum/showthread.php?p=17200, but again no response from Telnic. I remember Justin saying in an interview that Telnic was the longest startup in internet history. Telnic was incorporated as a UK company on 29 April 1998 as Ixtel Ltd., the name being changed to Telnic Ltd. on 8 September 1999. That makes it over 13 years since the company was formed to develop .tel - about the same age as Google and older than Facebook ! I assume it's the calm before the storm - just not sure how long domain investors and software developers can put up with no information about how .tel is going to get out on the streets as a mass market product. We all want .tel to succeed but with any investment (whether in time and/or money) there is a point at which reality has to be faced. I'm starting to get nervous about .tel - the roadmap has now been removed - some domain investors and software developers have already given up - we really do need good reasons to continue to "keep the faith". Telnic - can you please give us something concrete to show a route to getting .tel out to "Joe Public" before events overtake us all ! Thanks in anticipation. Mike Seaton[/size] |
hey mike totally agree, ive now let some 250 odd .tels fall off of the 280 or so i had, in total to date, i've sold 4 and had a inquiry on 1, but it never sold. As i have said i this forum, telnics 3 year anniversary is not to far away, and that will also be the time for trademark owners and other companies who reg'e there dot.tel for the 3 yr minimum to come up for renewal, and i hate to say this, but if things havn't progressed along at alot soon, domain drop rates will be massive, that said, i still remember the first time i found out about .tels, and watched the ben video, and thought, "man this is going to be huge", a unique phone number, to break up the boring 7-10 digit number, capable of holding all sorts of contact info, anywhere in the world, lose or change your phone number don't stress, just update your .tel with your new number. "i've been so looking forward to telling people, when asked, whats your tel??, replying with "41.tel, or hitman.tel" but when mentioned, no one knows what i'm talking about, then explain to people what it is, and show them, you can see that there excited as i was, so then, what did google and facebook do, that telnic hasn't, as the answer is in there, because it has the ability to be, because everyone within reason, has heard of both of those companies. Even within people who have heard of telnic,that have been to this very site, there are only 79 active members of a total of 709 members, 300,000 dot.tels domains purchased but only 709 members, therefore only 0.0025% are members on this site. i think its time for a new direction as the current one, correct me if i'm wrong is not working so good, i'd love to know if telnic still retains all of there original staff from startup, but would love to hear more from staff who have joined in the last 6 months as to there thoughts and ideas on where they see telnic going in teh next 6 months. just thought i'd also add that i am the end user, i'm the average guy on the street, a glazier, my dot.tel is 4glass.tel, i'm not a programmer, designer, tech guy, just the regular average joe who is our target market. cheers guys, andre' |
The slogan of Telefonica " to be the first gobal telco of digital world" 2,500 people, is to ensure Telefónica capitalises on opportunities created by the mobile device revolution, The Telco O2=Movistar=Telefonica, now have only three companys 1=America, 2=Europe, 3=Digital, but the news is that the third company, the Digital, will be in London... ¿curiosity? Telefonica joint to Vodafone in the future of pay by card, and create a new company in London ¿curiosity? Now for Telnic is not important the roadmap, before yes. The first president of Telnic (10 years ago) was Villalonga, before president of Telefonica... And Telnic is in London ¿curiosity? http://demo.ringful.com/detail.jsp?id=4035 (Funding is split across individuals such as Juan Villalonga and VC companies such as Banexi Ventures and Berggruen Holdings. In the beginning Telefonica tried to buy Telnic: http://www.elconfidencial.com/buscad...cha=07/07/2005 http://channel.hexus.net/content/item.php?item=31635 The unit, called Telefonica Digital, is the result of an internal reshuffle and will co-ordinate around 2,500 employees, Telefonica — O2's parent company — said in an announcement on Monday. http://www.pearltrees.com/#/N-fa=107...5&N-f=1_218365 |
I like it and see it as a hobby, i think a lot of you tellowners are to much behind the money! See all this as a lotery or casino, Mabey sucses Mabey not! I do understand the boys wich are developing third party software ! But for the rest i would say, bey happy to bey alive, dottel is not the end of your live, there is more in live Dont spend your last dollar pound euro on all this! Just the pocket money that u can affort to lose! A lott of owners spend a few coins and think the become Bill Gates Just enjoy the ride and dont think to much about your money Mabey you will bey rewarded one day And telnic invested so much money, the must bey suicidal and start jumping out of the window! But no, the keep it together, take theme as a example! When you lose Your money in the casino its your own choise, just the same story here! Dont lett it gett under your skinn |
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Tindaya, That's a more than interesting post, where would .tel be today if Telefonica had prevailed?[/size] |
BTW my corns are playing up, I do believe there's something afoot. |
Hi Dutch You just have to be my all time favorite poster! as you have such a way with words that even if you don't mean to, you always seem to leave me in tears of laughter! Which I think we need to cheer us up! |
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Yes teltheworld Thats The Spirit ! Keep on laughing til the end ![/size] |
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Tindaya, that's interesting information re Telefonica. To summarise 3 key items: 1. April 2004. Telefonica objects to Telnic's .tel proposal - Telnic's response is here - http://forum.icann.org/lists/stld-rf.../msg00006.html 2. August 2011. Telefonica announces "Telefónica Germany, Telekom and Vodafone are pushing ahead with their joint activities in mobile payments." - see http://pressoffice.telefonica.com/js...s=1&elem=16961 3. September 2011. Telefonica creates new mobile device digital arm (with 2500 staff, headquartered in London) to capitalise on "opportunities created by the mobile device revolution, such as entertainment, e-advertising, e-health, financial services, cloud and M2M (machine-to-machine). It will look at both consumer and corporate opportunities." - seehttp://channel.hexus.net/content/item.php?item=31635 If I were a shareholder in Telnic Ltd. I would be insisting on a S.W.O.T. analysis (Strengths, Weaknesses, Opportunities, Threats), unless of course I knew something about the future of Telnic that hadn't been made public yet. I hope this is the situation, and that Telnic is negotiating some big company tie-up at the moment, time is running out for the .tel communication revolution to actually happen in the real world ! Mike Seaton[/size] |
I just wonder what happened recently,everything sounds like over quiet.Telnic do nothing to be active.Eventhough telchina stop to renew social website. Will a big event happen soon? Or just giving up? |
I think is a big problem in the future for the Telcos, before the numbers was clear, but now with the names is not so clear, because for a global situation must joint the differents telcos, and will not be easy. Google go for free, and too much marketing but is only a algoritm (Everyone knows the war between Telefonica and Google, because Telefonica say that Google must to pay money to the Telcos, if you want that a video of youtube will see good in a mobile, someone must to pay)... The rest the domains are not importants because are the same, but the domain .tel is different, and the telcos need to control the situation... How? I don´t know. I speak about Telefonica (O2-Movistar) because have the idea clear that want to be the leader of the next digital revolution... The problem, I don´t know if now Villalonga is the president (Owner) of Telnic. Two years ago, yes Villalonga was the president, and Villalonga was before the president of Telefonica, so are friends... The future I don´t know, but I know that Telefonica want to be el First: Wayra -----> try to buy all star-up Tuenti------> try to be better that facebook Terra-----> will be the spotify american Jajah---->Try to be like Skipe ..... So is not rear that Telefonica try to buy Telnic |
Dial-By-Name - All Telcos must sign up in one go? Quote:
That's something I've been wondering about - if only say 10 or 20% of the world's major Telcos (in itself that would be a major achievement) sign up to do the DNS lookup of the telephone number from the entered .tel name, how is the average phone user going to know that when he/she dials a .tel name that the Telco handling the dialled .tel has signed up to do the DNS conversion to telephone number. If he/she doesn't know, there are going to be a large number of calls made by phone users which result in a message along the lines of "dialled .tel name cannot be converted to a phone number because Telco has not signed up to .tel" - this would quickly discredit the whole .tel idea! It seems to me that it's got to be all major Telcos signed up to do the .tel name-to-number conversion for the concept to work credibly - but this being achieved in one go seems highly unlikely! Just trying to look at the situation logically - maybe someone else can chip in here with how .tel "Dial-By-Name" could work credibly without all the world's major Telcos signed up at the beginning? Mike Seaton[/size] |
Come on Telnic. Your silence is brutal. We know your there because if a technical issue comes up there is a reply in 5 minutes. If anyone asks for a LITTLE input about the direction of Telnic, it is completely ignored. Have a little respect for those that believed and invested in your vision. I would actually prefer that you told me to shut up and that it was none of my F#$&*#% business rather than the head in the sand strategy that is currently in place. |
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That's how my Dial-By-Name system http://TelDial.com works - from the address bar - and this can be used right now on mobile phones and desktops/laptops/tablets - click http://justin.teldial.com or http://telnic.teldial.com to see personal and business examples. But Telnic's Dial-By-Name Phase 2 proposal is diffferent - it doesn't use the address bar - you just dial the .tel name into the telephone keypad exactly as you would dial a number - there is no requirement for the internet to be present on the mobile device for this to work. Hence my post Dial-By-Name - All Telcos must sign up in one go? Mike Seaton[/size] |
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The reality is that in 10 years, all will be IPv6, the fix Telcos will be NGN, and the mobile telcos will be 4G (all IP)... So, in 10 years all, all will be IP, so we don´t need numbers, so the switching only will be in the DNS... So, How can work a global comunication without the dottel???? I don´t know.[/size] |
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Jens, very good point, I assume Telnic will have considered this when they last did a S.W.O.T. (Strengths, Weaknesses, Opportunities, Threats) analysis of their position in the domain registration marketplace? Presumably ICANN agreement would be required for this to happen with another TLD? Mike Seaton[/size] |
All The reality from Telnic's perspective is that we are working very hard behind the scenes to add the features and functionality that make .tel a simple, cost-effective and easy to use online presence. As with adding Support for Mobile AdSense, when we have something to announce and update the community on, we will do so in a timely manner. As we are trying to prioiritise development to work through the updates and new functionality, we realised that the timeline was no longer representative of expectations and therefore took a decision to take it down. We are still working through development and hope to update this again soon. The forum is intended to be a place where community members can share information with each other. Telnic members step in when specific support issues are raised, as you have mentioned. We aim where possible to fix technical issues and update people using this forum efficiently. The forum is not however intended to be a place where Telnic staff provide a running commentary of the business activities nor update the .tel community on ongoing strategies. This is kept to the annual update from Kash and general updates in newsletters. We do remain open to receiving specific questions and all of our contact information for key employees for Telnic have always been available. If individuals have specific requests for information, you are more than welcome to send these on. Of course, when we have more information to share we will do so. Thanks Justin |
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Justin, please could you confirm the dates the next annual update and newsletter will be available? Thanks, Mike Seaton[/size] |
The annual update has always been around December/January, and we are planning for a newsletter this month, as we outlined in the last newsletter. It is sometimes difficult to schedule news from third parties around the newsletter of course... |
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I'm sure both will be eagerly awaited by all those who have commented in this thread ! Justin's comments make it clear that further speculation is pointless and we will have to wait for Telnic to make announcements as and when they feel ready to do so. It's time to make your own mind up about .tel's future prospects in the marketplace - I have ! Mike Seaton[/size] |
