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Search this tel Aled - Am working on a new .tel heavily emphasising the search this tel facility. What exactly does the internal search, index please? |
I was about to ask the same question. I am building a directory and counting on the search for only dot tel. So far, i have tried it and got the following results: 1- if you search for a entry already existing, it will display that particular page. For example: the shop name is Two Sparrow Bookstore. If you search for Two Sparrow. The search engine return and display the folder enter Two Sparrow Bookstore. 2- If you search for a folder. it returns not found. Not too sure why? Questions: 1- If you enter keywords for a particular directory, will the search engine find it? 2- Does the search engine scans all entries in the directory? thanks |
Thanks tel4rent. Perhaps Telnic can tell us please, if folder names are indexed, or just their contents. |
Hello both, It's simpler really to explain what the search doesn't currently index, which is NAPTRs, or Contact records. So yes, it will index keywords, header text and folder names. The difference, which may be causing confusion, is between folder names and folder labels. Folder names are indexed, but labels, being NAPTRs, are not currently indexed. |
In the case of getting a list of contact records indexed, I got around this by entering contact names in keywords so that each entry would show in a Telpages search. This only arises where you might have a list of say plumbers/dentists - or in my case satellite TV installers - rather than giving each one their own folder. The search works in Telpages and works very well in Google searches also, but it's too laborious and not a long-term solution. I also agree it is not the 'perfect' SEO friendly way of building directories, but on the other hand it does work very well from a navigation point of view for smartphone users. I still feel we are going through an experiminatation stage with .tel directory development and in order to get my local directories out there and showcased I have put this degree of effort in for now. So the question to Telnic is are there any plans to index NAPTS and contact records? |
please give example of folder names as against folder labels |
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See: http://oxfordstreet.tel/ The folder 'Shopping' has a folder label of 'Browse the Hundreds of Stores situated on Oxford Street' The label in this case is actually a separate NAPTR record. This was a feature they added a year or so ago so we could have more descriptive and longer folder labels.[/size] |
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Thanks dottel.[/size] |
Just one last query, how often does the search engine re-index itself? |
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and...should you re-submit a site to search engines if there has been substantial change (e.g from one folder at the first submission, up to twenty, fifty, etc. folders, six months later)?[/size] |
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Nope you don't have to resubmit your site everytime you update your site (no matter how big or small the update). hope this helps[/size] |
To respond to a couple of the earlier questions in this thread. We are considering the indexing of NAPTR records. If approved, we'll add to the roadmap on the website. Telpages (and as a result the site search) is reindexed every day. |
Thanks Aled knowing that folder names are indexed and refreshed every 24 hours is good. To have the title indexed would be great, as folder names cannot contain spaces. Now that we have analytics, I am trialing a .tel directory with a purely minimum landing page. Just title and search box and instruction to enter town name, with a hidden folder for every town, village and city at root level. You may ask why I'm trying this. 1. It looks fantastic on most mobiles, (almost like an app) and has the benefit of not having to scroll down a list containing 2,000 entries. Or navigate alphabetically or by county then town or village. 2. if a town name is typed in it usually returns that towns open folder. If not then a couple of other results. 3.The main advantage that I can see would be in seo. If you have all the towns etc. as a subfolder of the root domain, the url that google etc. sees is e.g. brighton.plumber.tel or aberaeron.chinesetakeaway.tel and hopefully these should have good serps, being great keywords. As each folder can have 100 records of plumbers or chinese takeaways for instance I think this could be a useful, fast and efficient directory. And as you can store 3,000 folders, with 100 records in each, it should cope with most countries and services therein. And all for a tenner. I'll be comparing this to a similar site populated in the conventional navigation way and see which gets better search results. Let me know if I'm missing something here or have completely lost the plot. Mactel (an old forum member) proposed a similar sort of idea about 18 months ago, then disappeared form the forum. So he either has made a fortune with this method or is still waiting for the control panel to resolve.:) Right now who has chinesetakeaway.tel, I'm feeling hungy.,:D |
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Thank you for that reassurance.[/size] |
@dialaroom, What happens if the user doesn't search for the terms you've included? If you use carpenter, and the search is for carpenters, then there will be a nil result. No one will be so pedantic as to reject a display showing carpenter when they were thinking of carpenters but, they might be discouraged if a search for carpenters fails. You're going to have to put in a lot of alternate terms, or is the subject such that there is only a few different terms that can be searched for? Anyway, top marks for pushing the boundarys |
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Basically people would be typing in their own town village or city, rather than choosing it from a huge scrollable list or navigating to it, be interesting tio see the bounce rate for this one.[/size] |
I would like an option to NOT have a page indexed whatsoever. "search just this .tel" is an extremely powerful in-built directory function. BUT, where it loses its shine is when a search ends up jumping to the outside rendererd "telpages" of multiple results. ugly ugly ugly I would like to make 1 specific page the result, staying within my .tel, and jumping directly to the exact page... (and the easiest way is to simply turn off all other pages that telpages is surely going to include) that is, i still want all my directory pages as part of my .tel structure, but i don't want them ALL indexed |
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How about it Telnic - a do not index option for folders - how easy would that be to add to the roadmap? The more I use .tel the more I see how useful that little search box can be.[/size] |
[QUOTE=boracay.tel;13681]I would like an option to NOT have a page indexed whatsoever. I'm not a programmer but this apparently works on blogs, anyone here feel this may work? |
dialaroom, I really like your plan, but something you need to be aware of with regards to the search function is that it is only initially aware of the top level .tel. It "finds" any subfolders by travelling through the links to subfolders. So, if the subfolders on your site have no lonks at all to them, then they will not be indexed. These links don't need to be on the home page, but there must be a way that the engine can crawlk to them from the top level. Similarly, if you do have a folder which you don't wish to be indexed, then don't link to it (BTW, this doesn't work in reverse, removing a link won't remove a listing, so you need to not link to it from it's creation.) |
