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Choice of domain names Expiring Domains Research Pro Tips http://www.dotsauce.com/2009/10/10/expiring-domains/ By Mark Fulton. Mark is a full time web developer, domain investor, entrepreneur and blogger residing on the coast of North Carolina, USA. . |
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That is not correct, it is only his personal opinion. It may be true for him, as he shapes himself on limited information. Certainly it is not true for all. Our hyphenated domains rank always better than our same non-hyphenated domains, and better then of competitors with similar domains, similar words, hyphenated domains. Since 2002, our hyphenated domains are bringing us true income, enough for life and pleasure. And if you have hyphenated,you shall have non hyphenated too. Again and again there are "experts" teaching those which had their websites when experts were still in the middle school. Mark Fulton started his now very informative DotSauce.Com in 2007, we started making money from Internet in 1995 in a different business, and in 2002. in business services. |
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I do not think it's the matter of who started business first:D The success depends on individuals, how they build and promote the site... but yes there are some issues with hyphen domains like 1. It's hard to give your domain name verbally 2. Falls down on being easy to remember or type 3. Market value of a domain name when compared to non-hyphen[/size] |
I know what is being "spoken around". But I had never a problem telling verbally our domain names; our agents had no problem telling verbally our domain names and I had never heard of client complaining due to domain name. That is my life, I should have know that within 10 years, at least. Of course, I am acquainted with the "talk" about domains, but I am speaking out of the real life. If you don't have problems telling people the word "dot" between domain and com, you will not have a problem telling people about your hyphenated domain. If someone has problems of that sort, he shall consult books, and review his communication skills with some consultant. Market value of a domain name in the domainer's market is of course not the same like non-hyphenated. But domainer's market is not people's market. Selling names between each other does make a market, but does not make a business out of the domain's services and products. Finally, you can sell air, and compete with other air sellers and you will create a market and different prices. Our business, with domain included, with continuance of clients relations, is at least 1,5M worth for the business in a similar or same branch. And I cannot compare developed business with non-developed domainers' domains. Tried to spell to people, Dot Tel? You will get number of people asking you back questions in that moment, or you will get some people asking "Dot Com"? because when you tell them: domain dot tel, they might still ask for dot com, it all depends of persons and situations. But we are not 1 year old babies, learning to speak, but grown ups, and everyone shall be able to spell simple letters, dots and hyphens. |
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It's not about you or your company... It's about what majority are experiencing in real life and what they are suggesting. Quote: [/size]
It's not about just telling it's about average joe understanding... Quote: [/size]
Do you now advise others (domain/site owners) to have an attitude of telling ("hey cant you understand what I am saying? you @##, go review your communication skills with some consultant" :D) their customers/end-users when they can't get it right (hyphen domains)? Quote: [/size]
If a person has MortgageRefinancing.com and could not develope it due to some xyz reasons (lack of capital, skills, interest or whatever) If he wants to sell the domain he will get more money than a person selling his domain Mortgage-Refinancing.com Yes you can sell air and dirt but it's about what and how majority of the people finding it in real life and they have some issues in reality. Quote: [/size]
You cannot compare two different industries, do you? The point is to have more advantages (more chances of getting profits in different scenarios) either the owner of the site get it right in development or when he wants to sell his non-developed domains... So unlike non-hyphen domains, hyphen domains may get higher sale price ONLY when they are developed and successful in it's niche. Quote: [/size]
Dot Tel? ofcourse because it's new Dot com? nope not atleast from the last 5 years, earlier to that? yes there were few who asked questions what it is and stuff.. But for hyphen domains? Oh Yeah there are many many people yet uncomfortable with "-" for different reasons. but yes it may not be the same after some years? but as of today there are some still some concerns with hyphen domains. Quote: [/size]
No one says everyone has the problem but in general there are concerns one has to consider when registering a domain name... The bottom line is purchase both domains if you are serious about your business, but make sure you develope and promote well[/size] |
Thank you, I am truly open for exchange of opinions on this matter. Quote:
Majority may suggest it. But it is not a playing factor for doing business. I will never get majority as client, and most important factor are clients coming based on demonstration of competence. Quote: [/size]
If the average Joe is hard to grasp: "orange-business.com" but he can grasp "orangebusiness.com" -- then he is not an average but a person with under developed language skills. Even children of 8 years understand it. Further, if anyone builds domain business on the domain with hyphen, that has a reason for readability and acceptance by search engines which are not named "Google". Our developed domains show as #1 on Yahoo, but on page #1, not number #1 on Google. And many people come from Yahoo. We don't pay for expensive advertising, while competitors pay up to few thousand dollars per month. I have observed number of non-hyphenated domains on Yahoo being second to hyphenated -- but that is not a research, just observation. Iif domain name holder have a problem telling: e.g. "orange hyphen business dot com" in his language, than he shall certainly consider reviewing basic books from the first elementary school. If anyone is not able to spell his domain, he has literacy problems. Now, let us come back to that example of orange-business.com, which is not mine. Orange Business is a multinational, telecommunication company, as I know them, and I am sure their employees never make a mistake in spelling out their domain names. What illiterate employee would some director of their business employ? Or shall we start claiming that his domain: http://www.business-standard.com is lesser successful due to hyphen? Do you think employees have trouble spelling out domain name? Directly in person, by phone, in marketing? I don't. I think, both directors, of both above mentioned companies, would say about this discussion, hyphen or not hyphen: NONSENSE! Quote: [/size]
I assume that is true, because domainers' market is such. They sell between each other names and there values the opinion that non-hyphenated domain is better. Now, to tell to domainer: "You will easier sell non-hyphenated domain", that is absolutely OK. But to spread out that statement to business people is spreading out a flat lie without any grounds. Quote: [/size]
Now, Hotel-Reservation.com sold for US $209,000. That further disputes even the fact that one cannot earn money as domainer on hyphenated domains. Silly. Domains have their values, and value for the sale is not made up by domainer only, but also by the end user who has the market for his products and services. You see, the most reasonable thing to do, when using domain with 2 and more words, is to register BOTH, hyphenated and non-hyphenated. Too many people make that mistake and get only one, later they cry because competitor is there too, with same or almost same domain. That is common-sense, if you ask-me. I can also imagine, that many domainers invest a lot of money in domains, and investing in both, hyphenated and non hyphenated is a double investment, for many not easy to afford. So, they play on non hyphenated domains, and their own excuses and justifications, they spread out on Internet, having true business people "forget" in the first instance about hyphenated domain, and in few years have them sorry for making a mistake. That is not a business advice, that is business damage. True business advice is more expensive then just another DotSauce.Com blog advice, where beside truly business oriented people, amateurs leave out range of comments, "confirming" his so much wrong advice. Quote: [/size]
I don't think that is true, and facts are above, see hotel-reservation.com -- and I don't think their employees or people agree with it. For a true business, one has to watch carefully the facts and inspect the information given, especially when information is given by someone selling non-hyphenated domains. [/size] |
