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    Dot Tel Killer App changes phone communication for ever!

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    Post by Telnic 2015-01-01, 1:41 pm

    mikeseaton03-25-2011 04:50 PM




    Dot Tel Killer App changes phone communication for ever!
     
    OK so the title to this thread is just wishful thinking - at the moment - but I believe there is one killer app that Telnic could produce that would make all other things on the current roadmap pale into insignificance!

    I'm talking about the ability to direct dial a .tel from your keypad, without going anywhere near your smartphone browser, just make a normal call using the alpha characters on your handset.

    I believe some firms have already done this technically - including Telnic I think from a post on this forum many months ago - but what I'm talking about is this being available to your normal phone user (mobile and the new smarter fixed line phones) without them actually having to do anything but dial the alpha .tel address - with the Telco doing a lookup on the .tel and picking up the phone number.

    This would have to work with .tel folders, i.e. subdomains, so that the appropriate phone number was picked up for say regional offices.

    The phone number could either be the first one on the page - or alternatively a keyword directory entry - or look at one of these first then if not present the other.

    I don't believe the concept would be difficult to sell to the mass public - after all everyone is used to the idea of keying in an alpha web address rather than the numeric IP address.

    The software to enable this to happen can't be that difficult to write - and could be distributed free of charge by Telnic to all major Telcos.

    Imagine how the sale of .tels would soar if dialling by name rather than number became the normal thing to do - Telnic could justifiably claim to have changed the way the world communicates for ever!

    Mike Seaton

    dialaroom03-25-2011 06:19 PM




    Sounds great Mike, I had a similar sort of thought about just having a phone link on a .tel that works just like the autorun file on a cd if you add the link to a page then anyone on a mobile typing the page into their browser would not see the page but just auto dial the number on it. 

    You're right Mike it would make a fantastic free app for android or iPhone.

    mikeseaton03-27-2011 06:50 PM




    Telnic - could we please add this to the roadmap http://telnic.org/tools-roadmap.html as a priority development?

    It would reward you with a huge number of new registrations (and renewals rather than domain drops) and the members of this forum who have "kept the faith" with a dramatic increase in .tel resale prices from their current low levels.

    Thanks in anticipation.

    Mike Seaton

    ynp03-27-2011 07:09 PM




    This is a great idea. Couldn't a new Contact Type be created within the drop down menu of Contact Types that would be THE recognizable number the app would dial? In other words, there are options for mobile number, work number and so forth, maybe call it PRIME number, or AUTO-DIAL, and the .tel platform could easily restrict one per page, which would allow the app to recognize and dial this number first.

    tel4rent03-27-2011 08:19 PM




    Great idea!!

    henri03-28-2011 08:49 AM




    Really?
     
    Come on people...

    I hope you may have considered that we might have had this idea at some point when conceptualizing .tel... After all, we have been talking for a few years of "dialing a .tel", "emailing a .tel", "skyping a .tel", etc...

    It seems like I need to repeat the ultimate long term goal of .tel: to be a SINGLE POINT OF CONTACT for all communications.
    There is no need whatsoever to remember phone numbers or email addresses or skype ids, or MSN usernames. They're all a single DNS query away, just like IP addresses are a single DNS query away from web server names.

    However, for this long term goal to be achieved, mobile phone companies and email client developers and Skype (and all the rest) will have to integrate this .tel lookup in their apps (just like Netscape integrated the A record lookup). For them to feel the value of doing this, first there needs to be a certain critical mass of .tel domains being used in the wild. Therefore there needs to be another orthogonal value proposition that is appealing to a large enough population that the critical mass will be reached.

    And that other value proposition is what you see today as being generally how .tel is thought about: a simple, powerful way to publish your own contact information online, under your complete control.

    So yeah, we know about the killer app. Trust me. We know. And we're glad you know too. It'll happen. But it's phase 2. Right now we're working on the success of phase 1, and considering the significant interest we see out there, it's going in the right direction pretty quickly.

    And there's really no need for us to build dialer applications because:
    1- they'll never be integrated by phone manufacturers.
    2- for manufacturers to support .tel in their own dialers is trivial, a simple matter of parsing the .tel and doing a DNS lookup. And sample code to do that is already available to them.

    Hope this is clear.
    H.

    mikeseaton03-28-2011 02:46 PM




    Quote:



    Originally Posted by henri (Post 13768)
    ...After all, we have been talking for a few years of "dialing a .tel", "emailing a .tel", "skyping a .tel", etc...


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    Thanks Henri for your post clearly setting out Phase 2 of .tel and Telnic's path to it.

    Not all members of this forum will have been privy to Telnic's statements over the last few years - so it is important that Telnic communicate this message loud and clear.

    I think your post will be of interest to a number of .tel waverers on this forum who have given up and are letting their domains drop or selling them for about $20 - it clearly demonstrates there is light at the end of the tunnel and it is short-term thinking to bail out now.

    "Keeping the faith" (whoever started using that phrase on this forum?).

    Mike Seaton[/size]

    telrific03-28-2011 10:45 PM




    Quote:



    Originally Posted by mikeseaton (Post 13779)
    "Keeping the faith" (whoever started using that phrase on this forum?).

    Mike Seaton



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    I don't know if I started it, but I've certainly been using it for two years !

    A few frustrated posts is different than lack of faith !



    I've seen quite a few personal .tel's drop lately, that is, someone's name and personal .tel.

    I hate to see that because it wasn't some speculative buy, and means only that they thought it was a good idea at the time, but now they don't want it anymore.

    Two things help that:

    1. Appeal (New Templates will help)
    2. Community (The knowledge that it's in a Book helps keep it registered and updated if someone's on the fence.)

    Just a fraction of people to be sure, but I just hate seeing those drop !

    They will likely be back as faith proves positive in the future I suspect !

    :o[/size]

    kiwihiker03-29-2011 01:17 AM




    .tel drops
     
    Ah, where do I get access to a register of the recent .tel name drops?

    telrific03-29-2011 01:58 AM




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    Originally Posted by kiwihiker (Post 13786)
    Ah, where do I get access to a register of the recent .tel name drops?


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    Telmasters.com and Dottel.net shows drops.

    Usually available the next day for registration.

    Welcome to the Pick-Up Party !

    :)[/size]

    mikeseaton03-31-2011 10:20 PM




    Quote:



    Originally Posted by telrific (Post 13788)
    Telmasters.com and Dottel.net shows drops.

    Usually available the next day for registration.

    Welcome to the Pick-Up Party !



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    Some of these dropped domains, picked up for just the annual registration, are going to seem like the bargain of the century when Phase 2 of the .tel project kicks in!

    Mike Seaton[/size]

    mikeseaton04-06-2011 10:34 PM




    Telnic's interview with YP Talk - a useful read at http://tinyurl.com/dottel-and-yellow-pages - publicly confirms "...the ultimate vision is that with critical mass, we can enable people to actually dial .tel domains directly from their cell phones."

    The idea that .tel will change the way the world communicates by phone - effectively replacing phone numbers by phone names - is mind-blowing!

    I wonder how many will regret letting their personal .tel names drop?

    Mike Seaton

    Cees04-07-2011 08:43 AM




    Me thinks a lot of people will come to regret dropping their personal names, I got Mine plus my wife's and youngest daughter however I missed out on my eldest daughter who's name is Audi (Don't ask about that last name please :)) Oh I think you can see why I missed out on that one, I do think it's a little way off just yet but when the tipping point occurs it will be amazing.

    mikeseaton04-19-2011 01:47 AM




    Quote:



    Originally Posted by Cees (Post 13995)
    Me thinks a lot of people will come to regret dropping their personal names...


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    I couldn't resist going one further and picking up first names only like CathGlynLesSusie.

    All currently for sale at Domains123.com.

    Mike Seaton[/size]

    tindaya05-29-2011 12:37 PM




    Quote:



    Originally Posted by henri (Post 13768)
    Come on people...

    So yeah, we know about the killer app. Trust me. We know. And we're glad you know too. It'll happen. But it's phase 2. .



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    Any clues about the concept of what will be that killer app in phase 2???[/size]

    mikeseaton05-29-2011 05:12 PM




    Quote:



    Originally Posted by tindaya (Post 14914)
    Any clues about the concept of what will be that killer app in phase 2???


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    Henri covered that in his Phase 2 post as follows:

    Quote:
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    Originally Posted by henri (Post 13768)
    ..."dialing a .tel", "emailing a .tel", "skyping a .tel", etc...

    It seems like I need to repeat the ultimate long term goal of .tel: to be a SINGLE POINT OF CONTACT for all communications.
    There is no need whatsoever to remember phone numbers or email addresses or skype ids, or MSN usernames. They're all a single DNS query away, just like IP addresses are a single DNS query away from web server names.



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    Mike Seaton[/size]

    tindaya05-29-2011 08:58 PM




    About that, I understand that in phase 2, nothing will change because this concept is long term goal.
    My english is bad, but I´m reading that nothing will change with telnic, and the rest of the companies Skype, MSN... must find the telephone number in the DNS.
    So, I don´t understand what will change the phase 2(???) to us, because we don´t know what will change in that phase.

    mikeseaton09-23-2011 07:18 PM




    Dial-By-Name solutions listed
     
    A new thread listing Dial-By-Name solutions identified by Jens can be found at http://telnic.org/forum/showthread.php?t=2304

    Mike Seaton

    Simon G09-30-2011 12:39 PM




    Ok everyone is discussing the dial by name and mike has teldial which provides an example of how this could work. While we are waiting for telco's to realise that this should be included in the software.. Has anyone got any thoughts regarding email by name? Perhaps I'm just throwing out a random idea but, would it be possible to have for example: telnic.tel in the to address of an email and an email would be sent to the first email on the telnic.tel root page.
    I guess this could create more spam but surely this would be useful?

    mikeseaton09-30-2011 01:05 PM




    Quote:



    Originally Posted by Simon G (Post 17850)
    Ok everyone is discussing the dial by name and mike has teldial which provides an example of how this could work. While we are waiting for telco's to realise that this should be included in the software.. Has anyone got any thoughts regarding email by name?


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    Hi Simon,

    I did when I was creating TelDial try a separate Email-By-Name facility, but decided it was more user-friendly to incorporate it into the TelDial screen, as in http://domains123.teldial.com or http://henri.teldial.com.

    One of the reasons for adopting this approach is that I intend to add more buttons to TelDial such as Skype.

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    Dot Tel Killer App changes phone communication for ever! Empty Re: Dot Tel Killer App changes phone communication for ever!

    Post by Telnic 2015-01-01, 1:41 pm

    mikeseaton09-30-2011 07:19 PM




    Quote:



    Originally Posted by Jens (Post 17853)
    There are 2 ways to reach this target:

    • .tel grows slowly over a lot of years and after reaching critical mass these companies will notice the importance of .tel.
    • Telnic arranges a partnership with one of them and because of this suddenly .tel starts with a big bang.




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    My money is on the second item - when you see hundreds of millions, sometimes billions, of dollars spent on buying-up the likes of AdMob, Motorola, YouTube etc., it would be relatively affordable for a major internet player to buy Telnic and supply .tel to their millions of existing customers.

    These buy-ups can occur quickly and unexpectedly when they happen - many major internet players such as Apple, Google, Facebook, Microsoft etc. are currently sitting on mountains of unused cash !

    Mike Seaton[/size]

    mikeseaton10-04-2011 10:12 PM




    Quote:



    Originally Posted by Jens (Post 17878)
    @Mike

    I like your expectations!

    But don't forget there is a third scenario:
    It could happen .tel doesn't get noticed by the public at all and shares its destiny with .name, .asia, .museum and .travel! The longer the success will wait, the higher the probability for this becomes.

    That is the reason why I always try to push for faster development.



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    Jens, I try not to think about that third scenario you describe - I want to sleep at night !

    Mike Seaton[/size]

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